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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:54 am    Post subject: Ensemble funtion with AMS Reply with quote

Hello

Do you know if there is a solution to control ENSEMBLE functions with aftertouch or velocity ?
For instance I's like to activate trills with aftertouch ....


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so but even if you did get it working, the actual ENSEMBLE would not be effective until a new note is played..

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do a multiple oscillator 2 cycle tempo linked (or not) tremolos with LFO linked to aftertouch or velocity or over a dozen other controllers though
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

thanks for reply

Do you mean we can
- create 2 osc : one with cycle1 and the other with cycle2 ?
- link LFO to AMP
- invert LFO phase of both LFO (osc1) and LFO(osc2) ?

I tried somethin like that without success but I probably need to investigate further in this way ...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Ensemble funtion with AMS Reply with quote

oliv73 wrote:

- Do you know if there is a solution to control ENSEMBLE functions with aftertouch or velocity ?
- For instance I's like to activate trills with aftertouch ....
olivier


You're talking about 2 totally different things !
- First one , ENSEMBLE is the way a SOUND layer in KBD set is controlled via chord recognition due to produce harmony
notes & duets when playing solo notes in right hand area.
- Second reference has to do with articulation control of a specific sound like trills you have mentioned , where trills multisample of an
acoustic instrument is assigned in one OSC of SOUND and its controlled via AMS send at AT/Velocity or any other controller like +-Y/sw1-3.
If you don't own samples of natural instrument's trills , you can emulate them using Square LFO assigned to pitch control AMS , but it
always sounds fake if applied to acoustic instruments samples.
For any of above cases , deep knowledge of Pa SOUND engine & DNC2 features is required.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply

In fact there is a TRILL mode in ENSEMBLE functions that works great on PA4x. But it's always in binary STATE (ON/OFF). So I wanted to activate them while playing (velocity aftertouch).
But it seems it's not possible.

In sound mode , we can program 2 osc with different pitch.
But to activate them in CYCLE mode , we have to replay the note each time .
Is it possible to activate them alternatively regarding tempo ?

You're right The best way would be to assign a trill multisample to OSC ...

OR to continue to play them manually Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm , you're right it exists in functions menu there , I had forgotten since I don't use this !
I use Ensemble only for Brass & Strings with specific settings I've programmed in my sound development.

There are 2 ways to create manually a trill articulation in SOUND mode
- The proper one has been already mentioned , you can use one of two independent LFO or master LFO in square waveform and use
pitch AMS >5:00 in an OSC that is enabled via a controller like +-Y or SW.
- Use the ribbon as manual global control of all OSC with tone or semitone pitch AMS to ribbon and define manually trills speed by
knocking upper or lower surface of ribbon.

DNC2 engine Cycle feature can be used only for wave sequencing or Round-Robin.

Hope this helps
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