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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:56 am Post subject: Serious Media Resources BKP bug in OS v3.1 !!! |
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(Already posted in OS v3.1 bugs with extended reference !)
It seems that OS v3.1 full resources saving , do not support >1GB custom samples resources.
When a compressed SET of over 1 GB has been saved in BKP full resources format then will be never loaded again in Pa4X
loosing all user's work and corrupting internal memory block , causing looping restarting for ever , until
full reset & format of Pa4X internal motherboard memory and normally Pa4X needs service center for most of end users ...
It's obvious that over 1Gb of sampling data of BKP can't be initially loaded in their whole size in max. 1Gb of Ram , so BKP must be partially loaded !
So beware and do not save in BKP format if your SET is over 1GB until this issue will be addressed !!!
Always as first save your work as "SAVE ALL" format in an external media.
- The only recover option is loading the full factory resources restore pack OS v2 of 5Gb that has full system memory format and restore option
in order to clear corrupted loaded resources of BKP files and have a working Pa4X again.
I just wonder why Korg do not hire skilled beta testers before releasing an OS and leaving floating issues in such important functions as saving users work ... _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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korg1 Approved Merchant
Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Posts: 958 Location: http://pasongstyles.com/
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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I heard this many times last year ,so i can't keep myself,i have to say it :
You must check your styles and samples,and bkp files ,they are probably faulty or corrupted,they are not native Pa4x ,this doesn't happen to me bla bla bla
God help us with 3.1 _________________
https://pasongstyles.com/
https://soundcloud.com/korgfx |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Just an irrelevant floating observation ...
This has nothing to do with indeed excellent resources I develop , this is a clear matter of simple maths for skilled programmers ...
More than 1 Gb of solid resources are trying to be loaded at once into 1024Mb maximum internal Ram of Pa4X as buffer memory , so if
some special care like splitting or partially loading this solid file had not been taken place (like in factory resources distribution ), then it was
obvious that this will happen , I guessed it , I've made it happen and just let you know ... crystal clear !
I not biased with anything and nobody , I always reveal the bared truth and I have the required knowledge to distinguish the cause of
every issue that will happens into my Pa4X in software or hardware level.
My third - party experience with other Pa4X is only from customers Pa4X that will come in my laboratory for troubleshooting and all of
them had the same issue , bad custom resources ...
Just for the story and all Pa4X users , pay attention to my resent findings due to avoid bad headaches ! _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V
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korg1 Approved Merchant
Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Posts: 958 Location: http://pasongstyles.com/
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I know,you are totally right about this !!!!
my resources are about 300-400mb,but when i tried to load them,it gave me an error while i was loading DK1 bank.
error was something like ''This is not a Pa file'' and showed up in the middle of the procedure,while it was loading.
Of course it didn't load all samples,so i erased them all and started to load
everything one by one .
The error was a AD kit no 15 i think,which i reloaded fine straight from original ADWorld.Pa4xAll.V1.0.SET ,and it loaded ok,but this was like strange to me,never happened before,except some missing or ghost samples.
I don't know if sample's length had to do anything with that error, it just feels that v3.1 is not fine _________________
https://pasongstyles.com/
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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My reference is strictly for "Full Resources Restore" loading procedure , the common LOAD/SAVE works fine up to 1500Mb.
The "not Pa File" warning mostly has to do with 3 issues.
- File was created in previous Pa series , it was loaded in Pa4X with previous OS 1 without being re-saved and now it's not anymore compatible.
- File has been edited externally and has errors in code for importing.
- File is commercial & protected by encryption and can't be recognized. _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V
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menara
Joined: 12 Sep 2016 Posts: 41
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Anthony for your help. I'm sticking with the os v2.2 since 800 mb of pcm ram are, at the moment, enough for me. _________________ Pa4x 76 - Sy77 |
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korg1 Approved Merchant
Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Posts: 958 Location: http://pasongstyles.com/
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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korg1 wrote: | ... as i had those wind intruments's fix that V3 brought.... |
Pa4X has still the same "Rom" samples library V2 and this won't change until its successor, so copy the newly developed Sounds
you like there and will work as in OS 3 Next ! _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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Paolo@Korg Korg Italy
Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 1090
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Serious Media Resources BKP bug in OS v3.1 !!! |
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AntonySharmman wrote: | It seems that OS v3.1 full resources saving , do not support >1GB custom samples resources. |
Antony, may you please check your personal mail?
Best,
Paolo |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Paolo , read full description here http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=771617#771617 _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the video evidence of saving and loading your samples of > 1Gb size in BKP format.
_________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:12 am Post subject: |
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At present time and until BKP issue will be fully addressed , when your SET's custom samples size is illustrated in GB
index like in bellow picture , do no save in full resources back-up mode and especially do not load this created BKP ,
else your Pa4X won't boot again until you format & reset the whole internal memory , and your samples resources can't be recovered ...
The safe samples size that BKP will work is up to 1023,9 value when written only in Mb units.
"Save All" saving mode that most of you are using , is working fine up to 1,5 GB though.
EDIT : Issue has been addressed and will be fixed in next OS update ! _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
PaSeries Demos - WavesArt.eu - KorgPa.gr <> Facebook
Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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Blazenko Junior Member
Joined: 29 Dec 2020 Posts: 83
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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That happened today on my Korg Pa4X Musikant !
My keyboard is not working anymore. How can it be, that Korg has not fixed this heavy bug in the OS ? _________________ Korg PA4X Musikant |
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korgpask Senior Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2013 Posts: 351
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:21 am Post subject: |
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11 januar 2023
January 11, 2023 and the problem is NOT solved since 20119 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great job KORG.
Great job KORG that the problem with CHORD detection from MIDI file is still not solved!!!!!!!!!!! since the creation of Pa4X this problem was !!!!!! Works in BASS INVERT mode !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you KORG for the years of waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Result - nothing was done. |
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