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Rosco_Australia

I'm trying to connect a UD-BT01 to my PA300 which I recently purchased. No luck.
I am running a MD-BT01 on my PA4x for the past two years which works fine, so I tried to connect the UD-BT01 to this but also no luck. The UD-BT01 connect fine with my iPad where I run SONGBOOK and I can connect /disconnect and see the red light flash and then on continuos when the connection is made with the iPad, so this is fine.
I've changed the lead from the UD-BT01 to USB device port on the back of the PA4x but no luck. Any thoughts on what I do else.
Any help appreciated.
Regards, Rosco
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Reuben · Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:12 am Post subject:

I'm probably asking an all too obvious question - but are you supplying power to the UD-BT01? My understanding is that UD version requires seperate USB power from a powerpoint (or from a host USB port).
Given that it needs power I just wonder how this device could be any better than using a Camera Connection Kit that also allows pass through power?
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Rosco_Australia · Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:07 am Post subject:

Hi Rueben, Thanks for your prompt reply. Yes, 240 AC power is connected to wireless adaptor via iphone plug. So all powered up and responding fine, but keyboard doesn't respond when I change songs on ipad (via Songbook APP).
Regards, Rosss

pa4x_user · Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:14 am Post subject:

Hi Rosco,

If your iPad can connect to the midi device, then you know the midi device is getting power ok.

Suggestions:

1) Check that you have the UD-BT01 connected to the host port (not via a USB cable to device port)

2) Check midi settings on the PA300 (esp. that Control Channel matches the channel you set for the Songbook+)

Phil
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Rosco_Australia · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:47 am Post subject:

Hi Phil,
Yes, I've connected via the host port which has the square plug (same as you use on a printer). I've got MIDI in/out channel 16 set to control and midi preset set to 08- tablet.

I am using MD-BT01 on my PA4x for the past 2 years which works fine.
I have plugged the UD-BT01 into the PA4x, but it doesn't work there either.

I am getting a replacement UD-BT01 next week , as it may be faulty, and will see whether this is the problem.
The reason I need a UD-BT01 is that the PA300 doesn't have in/out MIDI ports as per the PA4X.
Regards, Rosco

pa4x_user · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:36 am Post subject:

Thanks for update, let us know how it works out.
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Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
Yamaha CVP-309GP

Keymn · Senior Member Joined: 07 Sep 2015 Posts: 373

What midi device are you trying to connect? If you want to connect another Bluetooth midi device you need to use an App like MidiFlow on your iPad to connect. I have a couple YouTube info on this

https://youtu.be/0n2DvOWecoo

https://youtu.be/dNw967Z7oMk

I have been using the ud-bt01 for several years. The first thing you need to do is power up the ud-bt01 before turning on the Korg. If using songbook plus, all you need to do is Put in songbook number (four digits - example 0021 for number 21). Select “auto open on midi command”. No other settings needed in songbook edit section. Then in the songbook plus global setting, “channel 16, midi inOut enabled” . In the “easy keyboard control” Select
“Korg songbook entry (with code). Make sure Midi LE is device is connected.
Make sure the channel 16 of midi in/out is set to control in Korg and no midi filters.

I have had issues as simple as a bad usb cable, something to consider?

I used this with PA1x, PA3x and now pa1000. Should function with pa300.

Rosco_Australia · Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:38 am Post subject:

Trying to connect a PA300.

But I have a PA4x which also also doesn't connect with the UD-BT01. I have been using a MD-BT01 on this PA4x which works fine connecting my iPad to the PA4x.

I have swapped over the UD-BT01 today as I thought it may be faulty, but no luck on the PA4x. Until I get it running on the PA4x, which I know works fine with the MD-BT01, I'll forget about the PA300.

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Rosco_Australia · Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:19 pm Post subject:

Hi keymn,
can you advise where I locate "auto open on midi command". Is this on the Korg keyboard or the Songbook+ BAUM software on my iPad.

My basic problem is that the UD-BT01 works fine using the midi in/midi out on the PA4X, but the MD-BT01 doesn't work when plugged into the host port on the PA4x.

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pa4x_user · Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:50 pm Post subject:

Hey Rosco,

You said "My basic problem is that the UD-BT01 works fine using the midi in/midi out on the PA4X, but the MD-BT01 doesn't work when plugged into the host port on the PA4x."

I think there is a bit of confusion creeping in here?

The MD-BT01 is what you originally bought and can only plug into the traditional midi ports (unless you are using an adaptor to plug into USB Host which I doubt). The UD-BT01 only plugs into host port.

So I think you meant to say the opposite of what you actually said?
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Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
Yamaha CVP-309GP

pa4x_user · Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:56 pm Post subject:

Rossco,

I don't own a UD-BT01 but have perused the Owner Manual to try and assist.

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/9/723229/udbt01_en_om_b0.pdf

In the connection example therein, the UD-BT01 device is not self powered and is connected to a wall wart power source. I presume you have tried that also as part of your debugging?
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Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
Yamaha CVP-309GP

Rosco_Australia · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:29 am Post subject:

Hello PA4x_user
Yes, you are correct. Sorry for the confusion
MD-BT01 works fine for past 2 years. Two plugs into midi in/midi out into the PA4x. Self powered
UD-BT-01, new addition. One plug into the host port. Needs 240V in the wall.
I can see both of these on the Songbook+/ Bluetooth MIDI devides on iPad and can connect both, and see lights stay on the units when they are connected.
So connections are made.
As I said MD works fine with the PA4x , but UD won't respond.
The problems seems to lie with the PA4x responding to the UD-BT01.
Is their any setting on the PA4X that I need to change?
Regards, Ross