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chini Senior Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2013 Posts: 284 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:12 pm Post subject: KRONOS RPPR USER patterns missing - any ideas? |
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Wondering if anyone has come across this problem before...
I have a song where I can assign my own USER named RPPR patterns that can be found in the USER RPPR bank. However when I go to the other song which is identical my USER patterns are no longer there but replaced with the default names with no midi data!!!! ????
Can anyone shed any light on this?
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19naia Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 1216
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Parameter guide page 591.
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“On the KRONOS you can use preset patterns P00–155, and user patterns U00–99.
Preset patterns provide patterns that are suitable for drum tracks, and can be selected from any song.
One hundred user patterns are provided FOR EACH SONG; you can create and store your own patterns in these.”
I assume one hundred user patterns for each song, means the bank of one hundred for one song, is not the same as the bank of one hundred for the other songs.
Which is the way to go with so many keys over which to distribute the 100 patterns.
Page 657 parameter guide talks about “copy pattern” functions.
There it specifies that user pattern data belongs to the particular song it was created into.
But the “copy pattern“ function allows you to send the user pattern data to a destination in another song.
Not sure if RPPR is like karma in the sense that it exists with sequencer mode, with a switch to turn it on or off entirely, but does not exist as a fully integral part of sequencer despite being able to work like an integrated part of sequencer.
Karma does that in sequencer, combi and program mode.
RPPR seems to do that only in sequencer mode.
The way RPPR converts patterns to drum tracks, does make a bridge to using the user patterns in combi and program modes, but not with the same performance capabilities we have in sequencer mode. |
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chini Senior Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2013 Posts: 284 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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19naia wrote: | Parameter guide page 591.
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“On the KRONOS you can use preset patterns P00–155, and user patterns U00–99.
Preset patterns provide patterns that are suitable for drum tracks, and can be selected from any song.
One hundred user patterns are provided FOR EACH SONG; you can create and store your own patterns in these.” |
Hey there! thanks very much for taking the time to respond to this!
Yes! Having seen the user patterns missing it makes sense and is actually great that rppr patterns are akin to each song and even better that one gets 100 slots for each song!
I'm using rppr to play sequenced piano phrases within changing chords which is a tricky thing to program and play live of course because I have to use notes/fingering to trigger them that I would not use in the scale of the chord as one plays normally! Its tricky especially when one wants to change inversions of chords at various points in the song but I'll get there in the end! _________________ www.henryframpton.com
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would simply run tracks in SEQ mode and play along as you please on another midi track _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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