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[Xx_Joey_xX]

Hello

So with OS3 for the pa4x users can use up to 1.5 of sample RAM.
I used about 700 MB so far however I can't add any more USER SAMPLES cause I've reached 15048 samples. To recap in the PA4X you're limited by the number of samples you can use not only SAMPLE RAM which is pretty crazy.
I have 800 MB of sample ram that I can't utilize because the OS can't read beyond 15048 samples. Simple logic would say this is something that can be fixed via OS update. Then again not sure what the pa4x hardware can handle or how it's optimized.
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[midimusa]

~800000 kB ÷ 15048 samples = ~ 53kB for one sample. What kind samples You use?
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[korg1]

This is something they should have unlocked via Os,still nothing though
It's not that hard to release the sample locations limit i believe,
they just ignore it,
till they know what the new flagship will look like for sure,
then it's possible to just give us an update......or not!!!
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[siebenhirter]

[siebenhirter]

sorry postin twice

[Aripearlmusic]

i have 1.37gb compressed with 14361 samples so far. i could likely get to 1.5gb and very close to the sample limit by loading another sampled piano
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[Xx_Joey_xX]

Hello

I am using mainly USER DRUM/Percussion kits plus LOOPS.
The 4X had a handicapped OS from day one. This really should be addressed it's crazy.
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[korg1]

I couldn't agree more Joey,you're right about that.....
Unfortunately,many users don't dig into keyboard so much to see that.
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[siebenhirter]

[Asena]

Im my work i use lot of Sliced loop,s and that ones eats the Number som samples,

So for me and manny of the users this has been a huge limitation.

I hope KORG can solve this in some day.

This is really important to manny of the user.

KORG PLS

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[korg1]

siebenhirter, sample limitation is just a 1% of the problem,
i was reffering mostly on the whole Os,
which really was a handicapped OS since day one.

I will never forget that for almost a year ,i had to leave it at home,
and use a pa800 instead,because of freeze problems.
Never had a problem like that with a brand new keyboard,ever.

As i ve said several times,
there will be someone who will create
a stable arranger app,even being able to play both Yamaha and Korg formats,
and all this will be just a bad old story and memories....
No 4000 for an arranger anymore,no handicapped Os ,
no new flagship every 2-4 years.

Yamaha and Korg should think wise this time......
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[Korghelper]

There’s a lot of arranger users that never spent much time with REX loops, so it’s unsurprising that many of them don’t see how the sample limit is easily exceeded.

But put it this way...

One 4/4 loop, four bars long, with a 16th note division = 64 samples.

64 samples X 4 different Variations = 256 samples

4 X 2 bar fills = 128 samples

3 Endings X 8 bars = 384 samples

3 X 4 bar Intros = 192

Total of 960 samples. For ONE style.

Now, 15000 samples don’t sound like a whole lot, does it?

Obviously, that’s an extreme example, some rhythms don’t need slices every single 16/th, but some do. Some need more. Perhaps now some people understand how the sample limit seems so limiting...

I understand that some of the Ketron audio drum style library is available from Ajamsonic recently, but I haven’t yet found out how many samples each style uses, but obviously, the sample number limit will impact how many you can load at one time, especially if you have other loops loaded.

It’s time to insist that this arbitrary limit is lifted with the NEXT OS in its next incarnation.

[korg1]

i had never count my loops, but i just did.
So,my loops are 203 plus 135 pad loops,plus 40 drum kits which many of them share same stuff or even factory.
All other sounds are samples,and there are many empty slots on some program banks.
My sample size is 661.04Mb,
drumsamples=856
multisamples=798
samples=15023
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[siebenhirter]

[Aripearlmusic]

I find that many of the people that complain as far as a sample limit are not familiar with the potential of sound mode. I also find that they have dozens upon dozens of copies or very close to it of the same sample which can very easily be recreated using one sample and an LFO. Loops are great time savers to start ideas but the reason why they are so popular in a studio setting is because they Fast track the workflow. Nobody's counting the samples in their daw because at the end of the day you bounce one track after the mix. I have yet to find a single loop that can't be made smaller and sound better by using fewer chops loaded into a drum kit and then using proper midi sequencing and taking advantage of the onboard mixing. Because you can sidechain, pitch, filter, bus mix, automate fx sends and so much more there just isn't a need for loops beyond idea starters
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