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[AnthonyB]

Hello, just wanted to create a poll (my first), to see what percentage of people who own the OASYS actually CARE about the on-board sequencer, and would want improvements to it. Since some people complain about the Sequencer, that "some" could be just "1%" of the 3-4 thousand owners - who knows!. Well, I want to see, on these forums what people think about the sequencer, and the possibility of an update etc.

An update could be from a small increment, to a fully fledged 32 midi/32 Audio etc. But really; I just want to know how many (and the percentage) want an update - and those that don't....

I know there are sequencer topics everywhere - it seems, and it's been "Done-to-Death", but Since Stephen Kay said """there's a large section of users that don't give diddly-squat about the internal sequencer, and would be much happier with another EXi than an update"""" ; I thought it right to create a poll to see who actually couldn't give a "diddly-squat" or, in fact, those who could

Thank you all

AnthonyB
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KORG KRONOS 88-Korg D3200-Casio Privia PX-830BP-KAWAI RX-2 Grand Piano
Sequencing: KRONOS/Cubase/Cubasis/iPad air2

JOHN 3:16

[thekeymaster]

I'm voting definatly yes.

Reasons:

because the OASYS is the pinnacle of hardware sound creation at this time and is by far the best keyboard product on the planet but could be even better if the seq was brought in line with all the Effx,Exi's,HD-1 and Karma capablities.

Korg should now recognise that their seq needs a major overhaul.

The OASYS is a platform for future products,the M3 has been produced through it so why not take the OASYS and utilise its abilities to produce the best hardware seq ever found on a workstation ,period.

It will be intersting to see how this poll pans out.So far I'm not surprised at the voting......Korg you need to listen to your users!!!!!
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Cake Muncher

[Sharp]

I'm voting for number 1, and at the risk repeating myself for a millionth time. All I want is the ability to do simple things like shift notes (transpose) in pattern mode, just as you can do on the main edit page.

Most of the things I want are available already to some menus. It's just like... someone never bothered to include them to the other areas.

That said, I'm not going to dwell on this subject any more because I honestly don't believe KORG take the Sequencer serious.

I can learn to live with it as it is, as I don't use anything else, and I don't want to.
External sequencers are not for me.

Regards.
Sharp.

[Charlie]

Well - what should one vote here ... I got rid of all my other sequencers and now use only the Oasys. Looking back esp. the start was HORRIBLE - but once you get used to it, most of the things I need could be done easily enough (one more time a big "Thank you, Mike!" ). At the same time I have to admit I don't do excessive editing (anymore ). So I voted for 2: It's not vital but would be niced to be improved. What I miss most is the piano-roll!

[vEddY]

[eperez]

[vEddY]

[AnthonyB]

In THIS THREAD, Stephen kay said the following:


"""However, people should realize that changing the sequencer, the way people are talking about here, is a job that is many magnitudes greater than making a new EXi and slotting it in to the existing architecture. It doesn't really matter that Roland or Yamaha or CompanyX has such and such a thing, like a Piano Roll Editor - Korg doesn't at the moment. And, it's a totally different thing - engineers that are good at designing synth engines are not necessarily qualified to write sequencers, or edit the existing sequencer code-base. So if there are a bunch of engineers qualified to write a new synth engine, that's what they do, and Korg releases it - it's still driving further development""".

Now, I'm Just (for a minute) wondering if a major upgrade can be done **AT ALL**? (like 32 tracks Midi/Audio and so forth). Is the CPU (2.8 Ghz) powerful enough?, if so, would we have to compromise polyphony for the added tracks? - Both midi and Audio?. Cubase, for example will give you lots of Audio tracks, but a "slow" CPU will limit how many you can USE at one time (without crashing/drop-outs etc) So maybe 32 Audio tracks on the OASYS (especially running at the same time), may prove just too much.....

So then with All the wonderful sounds, EXi's, HD, CX3, 16 IFX (etc etc etc), I'm just wondering if the OASYS *CAN* actually take a Big Sequencer upgrade. I sure hope so, as I've just cast my vote (NO:1) - but maybe it's not korg being "lax", but not able to do the "undoable". For example, Windows XP can’t do DX10. I was just wondering if Korg *HAVE* had a look at the sequencer - and a possible upgrade; but consider it just "Too much".. and will just put up with us "wanters", "requests", "wishes"..... until we go away

I understand what Stephen (kay) says. My brother is a semi-pro photographer, and knows Photoshop CS2 inside out. However, put a spread-sheet in front of him and he runs for cover.


AnthonyB
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KORG KRONOS 88-Korg D3200-Casio Privia PX-830BP-KAWAI RX-2 Grand Piano
Sequencing: KRONOS/Cubase/Cubasis/iPad air2

JOHN 3:16

[vEddY]

[Sharp]

[vEddY]

[Davidb]

Hello Anthony

I was maturig to post a poll like this one, so its clear that we are so "many" on this boat.

I can name a lot of reasons for voting YES to the ones I aready adressed in other topics, but to briefly resume:
The Oasys doesnt have the sequencer it deserves, and I think we ALL are agree at this poit, even if you use it or not.
Its the only deparment where the Oasys does not score as the rest of the keyboard do.

And hey, we are not asking a full Cubase system built in, what we ask is not to have, mostly, the same Sequencer from the 1995 Trinity series.

We just ask for a better implementation and use of features not present on it , and that we think are important to improve the workflow and the compositional work in a keyboard which claims to be a "Studio" environtmen and that Korg tells us that is an "Upgradable plattform".

We ask the adition of graphical editors, full program editing, better patern editing, more PPQ resolution, etc, etc, etc... just to name a few of the lots of thing to do to take the sequencer to its age and needs of a today workstation.

We ask for necessary things, things present in most of the hadware Sequencers out there nowdays, even feaures included in Workstations of other brands from years ago, that were already there for some time.

All We ask is to impove the sequencer, as well as other aspects of the keyboard are improving.
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Regards.
D.

[billysynth1]

Ok, I've voted. I dont use the sequencer - i only used it once after Stephen Kay released a short and quick tutorial on it. That's the first time i have ever used a sequencer since buying synths from 1979.

For me the Oasys is not just a Workstation - I class it a SuperWorkstation. The M3, XS and Roland X are workstations. The SuperWorkstation cost us 2 or 3 times more than the Workstation. I think its fair to say that the processing power should also equate the cost.

I empathise with those who do not have this vital functionality added to the Oasys thats why I voted number 1.

Excuse my ignorance, but, what are these two Korg instruments - D32XD and D16XD? Are these like a sophistacted Sequencer? In the literature there is make mention of 96kHz/24bit res, 32 track playback - each track has 8 tracks giving 272 tracks - can this, like other hardware be ported into the O?

Billy
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Yamaha C1 Grand Piano.
Korg Oasys 88, Jupiter 80
Kronos 88, V Synth GT
I am a student of classical piano...I am not a classical pianist.

[Mike Conway]

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