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silverdragonsound Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 512 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:47 am Post subject: Update on My OASYS |
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As some of you know, I had a problem with my Oasys as it simply started working. Basically since then I haven't posted on here for two reasons. Its really hard to read about the Oasys think of things I'd like to do and try only to realize I can't (This may be better known as Oasys withdrawal syndrome or OWS) Secondly I have been very busy and time has been an issue.
I received a call today regarding my Oasys. I should be betting it back in about three weeks. Hopefully not any later but I am looking forward to getting it back and getting back to learning more about this keyboard beast known as the Oasys. _________________ And there was this one time at band camp...... |
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Did they say what was wrong with it...power supply...motherboard? |
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EJ2 Approved Merchant
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 2292 Location: Port Rowan, Ontario, Canada
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MarkF786 Full Member
Joined: 11 Jan 2003 Posts: 212
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Lately I've been obsessing a little about "what if my Oasys dies?" I posted a thread a few weeks ago discussing the MTBF or the average lifetime of the Oasys, but the general response seemed like I was the only person concerned about it.
I don't worry about any of my other gear dying and imagine most of it will last a lifetime. I'm winding down on my gear buying phase, and I'd like to get a setup that will hold me over for a long time. I have kids on the way, and probably won't have as much free time, so I could imagine keeping the same synths for 10+ years. I still have concerns if the Oasys will last that long since at heart it is just a PC. The motherboard's MTBF is only 40,000 which might seem like a lot, but in comparison the average harddrive (which is notorious for failure) is rated at 300,000 to 1,200,000 hours. I don't know about you, but I've had many harddrives, motherboards, and power supplies die on me. I've never had a synth or similar device die.
I've even been thinking of selling the O and buying an M3, since it's lifetime would be like any other non-computer-based synth. Sure, I'd be losing the other synth engines, but I could make up for the ones important to me.
Sorry to hijack the thread. When I read about hardware failures on the O, it gets me thinking about this. I wonder if five years from now, dying O's will become a common occurence.
Mark |
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Daz Retired
Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 10829
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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MarkF786 wrote: | ... but the general response seemed like I was the only person concerned about it. |
Personally I was in denial, I am too scared to even think about that I think you were making a very valid point but it got lost in there somehow IIRC.
I must confess that since that post I have explored the idea of snagging a spare PIV and AOpen MOBO. As I commented to Sharp though, I bet if I did that it would be another part that will fail in years to come.
Like you I hope to have my Oasys for a very long time, it's the most significant piece in my setup.
So yes, I really feel for Silver, that must be very frustrating ... I hope everything works out okay and soon ! |
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billysynth1 Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 1148 Location: Australia/Melbourne
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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When i purchased a new Z1 in 1997 it died on me in the first week. Apparently there was some issue with them - a resistor or something that had to be replaced. Have had it for 10yrs now and had no issues.
In 1999 when i purchased a new Kurzweil K2600X this too died on me in a week or so - turned out the fuse blew. So, I've had some experience with new synths dying on me - its a real bummer picking the thing up and taking it to the repair shop - some repair people have no respect for electonics - i was scared my synths might come back with scratches etc - i'm meticulous with my keyboards, dont like scratches dust anything on them.
Billy _________________ Yamaha C1 Grand Piano.
Korg Oasys 88, Jupiter 80
Kronos 88, V Synth GT
I am a student of classical piano...I am not a classical pianist. |
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silverdragonsound Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 512 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the responses guys. I never really found out what happened to it but I will be getting all the information when it is returned. I had issues with the shipper getting it to sweetwater and there was a moment when I feared they lost it or something along those lines. Luckily that was lceared up and now they are ordering parts for it. I think the maion ciruit board was fried but I don't know for sure.
As for other Oasys's dying its certainly possible. They are electronic and everything electronic is subject to these type issues. I do think the issue with my Oasys is an isolated incident and by no means an issue with the keyboard as a whole. I mean look at things like the Alesis Fusion as an example of a recent keyboard with plenty of known issues both now and in the past.
Lastly I wanted to say I've had tons of other gear die from Roland, Alesis, Yamaha, Kawaii, Casio, M-Audio and Ensoniq all die on me. Gear dies and this is just the way it is. Somestimes its an issue with the way its puts together and most of the time its really just an isolated incident. _________________ And there was this one time at band camp...... |
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Mag66 Senior Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 293 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Update on My OASYS |
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silverdragonsound wrote: | As some of you know, I had a problem with my Oasys as it simply started working. |
Umm.. and that is a problem because??
Seriously though... I had an issue with mine a while back and Korg were excellent in getting the issue resolved and I haven't looked back since.. Yes, it's a pain having to be patient.. but it really is worth the wait..
Nigel _________________ Nigel Sixsmith
The Art Of Sound Studios
Gilbert, AZ
The Art Of Sound Website **UPDATED: 1st FEB 2008**
MBP 17", M-Audio Midisport 8X8 Oasys88, Karma, Triton Classic, and a whole bunch of other keyboards, modules, racks, software + such |
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silverdragonsound Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 512 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Hey another local user how about that! Thanks for the words Nigel. _________________ And there was this one time at band camp...... |
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ricky recordo Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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silverdragonsound wrote: | I had issues with the shipper getting it to sweetwater and there was a moment when I feared they lost it or something along those lines. . |
If they'd lost your OASYS (vendor or transport company) I'd think that they'd be on the hook for a new unit for you.
Back in 1986 - maybe it was 85 - I bought a new Ensoniq ESQ-1, one of the early ones that lacked a heatsink. It popped chips like popcorn (well, two kernels anyway) so I took it in for repair twice. UPS lost it the second time - or so the vendor's "story" went - and I ended up with a brand new heatsink-equipped ESQ-1, sealed up fresh in the box.
Ahhhhhh, that factory fresh smell! mmmmm..... |
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ricky recordo Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: |
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MarkF786 wrote: | I've even been thinking of selling the O and buying an M3, since it's lifetime would be like any other non-computer-based synth. |
Like maybe my Juno 106 or DX7. Both keep on keepin' on 20 years after, and both still sound wonderful - the Juno has a bit of rust on its SOLID STEEL case - the DX7's equally robust cabinet is rust-free, (and both happily accept fridge-magnet-affixed notes)
I don't think the M3 likes magnets. I'll check...
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I'm back. Nope. The M3 does not like magnets.
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Hey, guess what - the Motif XS LOVES magnets. You can hang an Elvis poster off of it with a magnet. I think Yamaha used the same tool/die setup for both DX7 and XS6.
:EDIT: Sorry, I was comparing the XS' dimensions to my Roland JX-8P, which incidentally also will magnetically hold an Elvis poster in place with no problem. Small wonder since the accompanying PG-800 programmer module was designed to affix itself to the JX-8P with magnets... but don't get me wrong the Juno 106 IS made of steel as is the JX-8P and is equally magnetic
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Maybe the OASYS just needs better heat dissipation... like the big honkin' heat sink like they welded on to the ESQ-1, but bigger.
The OASYS rad update would ideally be free of charge as well |
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milkojnr Full Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 182 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: |
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We have had a couple of problems with keyboards down here is Australia:
Roland D50,D70 JD800 range the glue holding the weights under the keys dissolved and we had pink glue and weights hanging off the each of the keys. Roland even though it was like 8 years since I purchased my JD800 fixed it under warranty. It was like a brand new keyboard 8 years later. _________________ Oasys 88, 2 gig ram, EXB-DI and all the current expansions. VIRUS TI Desktop, Protools Horizons and SSL Bundles |
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EJ2 Approved Merchant
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 2292 Location: Port Rowan, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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LOL,, I just had my JD800 keybed repaired too, but Roland Canada made me pay for it...albeit....at a low shop rate ,... and included a bit more clean up and replacements. Great to have that baby back. _________________ Cheers,
Jim (aka EJ2) Karma-Lab Associate Combi Developer
CATALYST v 2 Blast of Inspiration for KRONOS & OASYS: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/catalyst2.html
CATALYST v 1 Combi Explosion for KRONOS, OASYS, M3, & K-M50: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/catalyst1.html
CHEMISTRY 3, a Groove Injection for Your Karma: http://www.karma-lab.com/sounds/chem3.html
SoundCloud MP3 Demoshttps://soundcloud.com/ej2-sc |
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Synthia Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 652 Location: Southampton,UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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I still have my old Juno 106,DX7,D-50 etc.They knew how to built them like tanks in the old days.All my older synths are still running strong.
I always have that niggling feeling that my old DX7 will outlive my OASYS.The new gear just doesn't last that long.There is so much more that can go wrong with it.Same goes for hoovers,washing maschines,etc.
I really do hope that OASYS will have a long life because I would be absolutly heartbroken if it would die prematurely.It really scares me at times. _________________ Music keeps me sane in an insane world.
Synthia
http://members.soundclick.com/synthiaS
http://www.myspace.com/tritonia
http://www.youtube.com/synthiakorg |
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Synergy Full Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 185
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 22 year old Casio home keyboard and it runs like new today. I dissembled the thing to clean up the old debries inside and I was quite surprised how well the components were soldered and put together. They wrapped each jumper wires with high quality cloth tapes. Everything was meticulously insured that nothing falls apart. I regret selling my DX7. I paid $3000 from a slick sly sales guy. |
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