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bkboy Full Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 115
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: Is M3 build quality poor? |
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someone on motifator posted a picture of the screened text wearing off on m3's buttons. did any of you guys have this problem?
the design of the m3 was always a question mark for me, and now i personally think its ridiculous that all the text is printed on the buttons, which would greatly increase the chances of text wear from friction from daily use.
i wonder why korg didn't use the triton style text screening, i.e., all text appears outside of the buttons, not on the buttons.
guys who have owned the m3 for more than 3 months, please reply.
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MartinHines Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3037 Location: Topeka, KS (USA)
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:22 am Post subject: |
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All Korg keyboards have a one year warranty. In the U.S., if you register your keyboard with Korg USA the warranty is extended to two years. |
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Thats strange.. I saw that and I believe it is a concern, but does that guy have sandpaper on his fingertips or what? I have had mine 3 months and as of yet ..no problem..but I dont play mine everyday either. Maybe a bottle of clear fingernail polish is in order.
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Trinity2112 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2002 Posts: 579 Location: Delaware, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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sparkie wrote: | does that guy have sandpaper on his fingertips or what? |
Perhaps he has guitar calluses or acidic sweat or works with acidic materials. Who knows. As I posted in another thread, I've had my M3 for almost two months and play it everyday, yet there's absolutely no signs of wear on any of the buttons. _________________ Current Korg Lineup: Kronos 61, Oasys 76 · M3-61/RADIAS · Trinity Plus/HDR · 01/WFD · 01R/W · X3R · M3R · Wavestation EX · Wavestation SR · Triton Rack/MOSS · Z1EX · TR-Rack · Karma · D3200 · iM1 · iWavestation · iMono/Poly
Other Synths: Berhinger Deepmind 12 · iProphet · Moog Model D
Dearly departed: X3 |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have my M3-M for 4 months ( since May)
Zero problems no signs of wear
I baby all my equipment, too
I sold my Classic triton 61, after having it 6 years. The dude that bought it was happy how great it looked _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Whoever wore out those buttons definitely needs to invest in some Hand Cream!!
Now, I want some new progs ..EXs or MOD 7.. like the Oasys just got!! I wonder if they will make over to the M3? Man I hope so..
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bkboy Full Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 115
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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why haven't we heard any response from korg reps (jerry, stephen, etc) regarding this issue? please guys, don't ignore this issue. |
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Unknown Sound Full Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 129 Location: On a small island just off the coast of an island not to far from Antarctica
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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The sad thing here is that the print on M3 buttons (at least the ones used most) will wear off. This will happen to everyone...eventually.
Using a 'Print' methods on buttons on a synth is tantamount to incompetence in my book. They should have been etched! and you can't claim economics as a factor, heck, even $10 PC Keyboards from China have etched keycaps!
Grrr.
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Unknown Sound wrote: | The sad thing here is that the print on M3 buttons (at least the ones used most) will wear off. This will happen to everyone...eventually.
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I am not convinced. Lets check back in 6 months, ok ? _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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sparkie Platinum Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Unknown Sound wrote: | The sad thing here is that the print on M3 buttons (at least the ones used most) will wear off. This will happen to everyone...eventually.
Using a 'Print' methods on buttons on a synth is tantamount to incompetence in my book. They should have been etched! and you can't claim economics as a factor, heck, even $10 PC Keyboards from China have etched keycaps!
Grrr.
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Hi ,,Damn, I agree that would be a real problem! I am sure Korg used a high quality ink or paint when they screen printed them. I also believe new cars have similiar printing. And just one case of this wear is not a cause for concern unless others start noticing wear. Seems weird only 1 person reported this problem.
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bkboy Full Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:26 am Post subject: |
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seems like spanish people play with their m3s after touching olive oil! |
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Unknown Sound Full Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 129 Location: On a small island just off the coast of an island not to far from Antarctica
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Have you had your current PC keyboard for a year or more? Look down at the keycaps so the surface reflects the ambient light. Notice the wear (smoothing) on some keys (esp the Spacebar).
Our fingers have ridges (finger prints), our skin sweats (with chemical wastes leaving that way (I.e. after consuming Garlic, Lemon, Onion, Thyme, Carrot seed...)). Every time you press a key on your keyboard, you affect the surface at a microscopic level, this results in wear over time. Friction is a fundamental property of the Universe! Lesson over.
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jazzman1 Senior Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 283
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Unknown Sound wrote: | Have you had your current PC keyboard for a year or more? Look down at the keycaps so the surface reflects the ambient light. Notice the wear (smoothing) on some keys (esp the Spacebar).
Our fingers have ridges (finger prints), our skin sweats (with chemical wastes leaving that way (I.e. after consuming Garlic, Lemon, Onion, Thyme, Carrot seed...)). Every time you press a key on your keyboard, you affect the surface at a microscopic level, this results in wear over time. Friction is a fundamental property of the Universe! Lesson over.
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I dont quite get your point. It is not about,if it will wear, but how long and how bad. Thats dealng with quality of the equiptment, be it computer, keyboard,or what ever the case. |
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rfoshaug Senior Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 290 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Funny you should mention PC keyboards. My PC keyboard has been used for 4 years now and I have pressed those keys many more times than I'll ever press any M3 key.
Yes there are signs of wear, but even on this cheap PC keyboard, all the letters (which are just stickers on the keys) are still just as readable as the day I bought it, and no letters show any signs of being worn away.
PC keyboards have been made with letters on the keys themselves (so that your finger actually presses on the letter or symbol) for decades without much problem. |
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jazzman1 Senior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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rfoshaug wrote: | Funny you should mention PC keyboards. My PC keyboard has been used for 4 years now and I have pressed those keys many more times than I'll ever press any M3 key.
Yes there are signs of wear, but even on this cheap PC keyboard, all the letters (which are just stickers on the keys) are still just as readable as the day I bought it, and no letters show any signs of being worn away.
PC keyboards have been made with letters on the keys themselves (so that your finger actually presses on the letter or symbol) for decades without much problem. |
And thats my point. They were designed to handle that. Knowing the amount of use they would have to endure. I have never had a keypad/board, no matter how cheap fade. |
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