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What about legacy collection on the M-3??????
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just one small notice about all this softsynth/hardsynth fuss.

There is a big difference between PLAYING and making the music.

Hip - hop isn't playing the music - you make (program) loops, beats all that stuff, record it and that's it.

Softsynths are good for studio mastering and stuff like that, but for live playing they are no match for hard synth, you can connect MIDI controller to PC, load samples and play, but there is a difference, and softsynth doesn't stand any chance if you use just them.

Another thing - musicians who tend to work with PC only loose their playing skill and that's inevitable. I play for few hours each day and most of the time I just practice my speed, accuracy, dynamics and stuff, to maintain the skill (Nedim, you know what I play so you know what I mean).

So, bottom line, there isn't comparison between the two - performer cannot play without hard synth and there is no serious studio business without softs.

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In the past month I sold most of my hardware stuff, and used that money to buy a new Macbook Pro, Apogee Duet, Logic 8, and I feel 100 times more productive, especially when I am traveling.


tyron, I don't mean to disrespect what you do, you earn money with it, you find it OK and it works for you. But it is PROGRAMMING the music, not playing the music. Just my opinion, so no hard feelings, OK?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahahaha, i think he messes up the terms, thats why i always tell him,
we are talking about MUSIC, not video games.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(Walks away from the forum)


He is probably not reading this anymore, but still, video games, good comparison.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shrike wrote:
Just one small notice about all this softsynth/hardsynth fuss.

There is a big difference between PLAYING and making the music.

Hip - hop isn't playing the music - you make (program) loops, beats all that stuff, record it and that's it.

Softsynths are good for studio mastering and stuff like that, but for live playing they are no match for hard synth, you can connect MIDI controller to PC, load samples and play, but there is a difference, and softsynth doesn't stand any chance if you use just them.

Another thing - musicians who tend to work with PC only loose their playing skill and that's inevitable. I play for few hours each day and most of the time I just practice my speed, accuracy, dynamics and stuff, to maintain the skill (Nedim, you know what I play so you know what I mean).

So, bottom line, there isn't comparison between the two - performer cannot play without hard synth and there is no serious studio business without softs.

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In the past month I sold most of my hardware stuff, and used that money to buy a new Macbook Pro, Apogee Duet, Logic 8, and I feel 100 times more productive, especially when I am traveling.


tyron, I don't mean to disrespect what you do, you earn money with it, you find it OK and it works for you. But it is PROGRAMMING the music, not playing the music. Just my opinion, so no hard feelings, OK?


(I don't know why I keep letting myself get sucked back into this....)


WOW...what a bunch of gross over-generalizations!

So what have I learned today? Hip Hop is never played by live musicians. Got it.

Performers can't use all software, or they'll lose their chops. Got it.
I'll make sure to stop doing these things now that I know the rules. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SynthDogg, there is no rules in music but there is many genres that they
CANNOT be PLAYED live..and HIP HOP is one of them, since there actually
is no MUSIC in HIP HOP. I never personally saw anybody PLAY HIPHOP live
and that doesnt mean there isnt but i have never seen.
I see zilions of JAZZ, ROCK, BLUES, FOLK, and other stuff played live.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Nedim, you don't get it:
when you take PC on stage, get all the software working and pres "PLAY" it is actually playing live.
I see now how wrong I was all the time.
I came home an hour ago and already started sequencing all songs I play with my band so I can convert them to smf, go to stage, pres PLAY and play live.
I'll get my mic and say "who is in charge", "shrike is in the house", "Say yeah", "Say ooo-ooo" eventually in the song and that's it.
See?
You are wrong too, do you see it now?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So actually, when i play BATTLEFIELD 1942 ROAD TO ROME its live too???
Question Question Question Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh yes.....sarcasm. I'm familiar with that Very Happy

Soooo.....computers live are just used to play back tracks???
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, in my country the have a say:
Dont eat YOGURT with KIDS, they'll splash it all over you!
But this is what US musicians call PLAYING LIVE!:

http://www.speedyshare.com/964262620.html

Tyrone, i bet your Fruity Loops cannot do that, not even in our
biggest and farthest imagination...peace to YA'LL!

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ...finally me and Sina agree on something...arent you guys Happy?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shrike, djes, de da ih jos malo jebemo... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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..finally me and Sina agree on something...


Just for the record, it's snowing here in Zagreb. So obviously God is wondering too.

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computers live are just used to play back tracks


Synthdogg, naturally computers live AREN'T used just to play back tracks.
You can use computers for softsynths and sample libraries live, but without hardsynth's sounds there is no way that could work fine.

There is no way in live playing softsynth could emulate every thing hard one can do. And what if that softsynth freezes in the middle of some virtuos piece? What then?

(Nedim, this song is...magical, that could be right word. Jesam ja pusionicar za taku muziku, di mogu zabost sto eura, evo vec vadim)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evo me, evo me, nemos ti ljudima objasnit razliku izmedju sviranja muzike i pustanja muzike.
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