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kimu Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1133 Location: Italy,Milan
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: extreme or V-synth? for prog rock/metal live band |
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Hi all,
some months ago i started a complete renew of my setup that was starting to show its age...
hence as i am a fan of korg workstation i bought M3 and i happy with it but i feel not so much confidente in bringing it to live gig and on the road.
so i have to find something for live gig and rehearsal, i was thinking of Tritron Extreme 61 (maybe a good used one) or also V-synth (not the GT too expensive but the 2.0).
does anyone can give opinion about that? someone has both of them and can compare them?
i mainly play in a prog rock/metal band so i need very good pad, fat and aggressive lead, some electronic and piano/strings for ballads.
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I dont think anybody can give you an opinion on that, its like asking:
What better sould i get, a TRACTOR TRAILER or a CAR?
Which one do you need? They cant be compared, they are 2 different
world, one is a WORKSTATION (TEX) and the other is an EXPERIMENTAL
SYNTH (V-SYNTH). None of them does what the other does.
I cant really tell you anything. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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kimu Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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yes you are right, but i wa not thinking about workstation capabilities as for this i use the M3, i ask mainly about sounds, editability, layering and splitting, usability for live and so on... |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Then you should'nt even ask this question, you are not gonna gain anything
at all with getting EXTREME except few things that the M3 is missing.
Just get the V-SYNTH. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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kimu Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Nedim, it's ok, you don't like may question i guess...
imho it was quite simple, i got M3 and i use only in my home studio. i need something for live gig and rehersal and i just ask if somene can give me opinion about triton extreme and V-synth. i know they are different machine but i don not need workstation features on live gig i mainly wants sounds for progressive band!
for this i ask which can be better... |
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lcmorley Senior Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 311 Location: Cardiff, South Wales, UK.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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The problem you have is that people who love the V-Synth will say the V-Synth, and people who love the Extreme will say the Extreme. You may be lucky and somebody maybe completely impartial, but even then they may not have the same opinion as you.
Everything is subjective. What one person likes may not be the same as what you like. If you are thinking of shelling out a lot of money on a synth, wouldn't it be better for you to try them out first if possible, then at least you can make the decision. _________________ Music is the stuff Dreams are made of!!!
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kimu Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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that's for sure, i will try to have on ride on both before buying, it was just to have an idea from people that have it and can give me pro e con for a live use. |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Lcmorley, he cant do that, as i said, those 2 synths are 2 worlds, noncomparable,
i dont know how can someone like one more then the other, i dont get it when
they are 2 different thing, you either like both or none.
As for Kimu, kimu is not that i like or dont like the Q.s but they are confusing.
Why?
I own 13 or 14 keyboards now i dont know exactly, i owned the V-SYNTH for
year and a half and ALL of them do just DIFFERENT things.
Now back to you to make a point, you are saying you have the M3 but you gonna
uset it only home in studio and at the same time you need something for live.
Which means you need something that doesnt really matter if its the same
as the M3 or not, cuz they are used ONLY in 2 different places.
Then get the EXTREME, but why? Why not a TR and save some money?
Down to the point:
If you use it only for live and have the M3 at home then get the EXTREME or TR.
V-SYNTH wont do much for you, probably nothing at all, you wont find any
single sound from EXTREME on it or vice versa.
Its is an EXPERIMENTAL and TEXTUAL synth with nice SoundScapes and stuff,
you can be the BEST PROGRAMMER but you cant pull TRITON sounds out of it.
If i was in your situation now and i need it a solo machine i you only wanna
get KORG i would get TR, but in this case...WHY NOT GET FANTOM and have
2 diffferent machines and at the same time better then V-SYNTH for live?
Do i make SENSE??? _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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lcmorley wrote: | The problem you have is that people who love the V-Synth will say the V-Synth, and people who love the Extreme will say the Extreme. |
Thats not true either, there is not that kind of people. I dont know if you really
understand the differences between these 2 machines. They just cant be compared.
They cant be LOVED for the same thing, it HAS to be only different thing. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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kimu Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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yes, that's the kind of suggestion i was asking for
i will check out also fantom then. |
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lcmorley Senior Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 311 Location: Cardiff, South Wales, UK.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I do understand the difference between the two keyboards. One is a workstation, and one is not.
What I think kimu is getting at is the sounds alone. He doesn't really care about all of the other bells and whistles that are offered by the Extreme, but not the v-synth. _________________ Music is the stuff Dreams are made of!!!
Please checkout my music at www.soundcloud.com/lcmorley
My Gear History (from 11 years old until now):
Yamaha PSR-31, Technics KN1000, Technics KN5000, Technics KN7000, Korg PA-80, Korg Triton Classic, Microkorg, Korg Triton Studio, Alesis Ion, Korg Legacy Collection, Korg Triton Extreme, Roland Juno D, Access Virus TI 2, Korg M3, Korg Oasys, Roland TR-8, Korg Kronos 2 88 Platinum. |
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kimu Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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lcmorley wrote: | I do understand the difference between the two keyboards. One is a workstation, and one is not.
What I think kimu is getting at is the sounds alone. He doesn't really care about all of the other bells and whistles that are offered by the Extreme, but not the v-synth. |
yessss, i am thinking only for sounds in this case as all related stuff as filter, controller, editability and so on... i know M3 and trinity sample but no one of extreme and v-synth |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Still, the V-SYNTH wont give you the sounds you want.
Maybe if you cover APHEX TWIN or KMPFDM or JMJ. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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lcmorley Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Anyway, I had the extreme, and loved it. Never been anywhere near a v-synth though so cannot comment.
Why don't you want to gig your M3? _________________ Music is the stuff Dreams are made of!!!
Please checkout my music at www.soundcloud.com/lcmorley
My Gear History (from 11 years old until now):
Yamaha PSR-31, Technics KN1000, Technics KN5000, Technics KN7000, Korg PA-80, Korg Triton Classic, Microkorg, Korg Triton Studio, Alesis Ion, Korg Legacy Collection, Korg Triton Extreme, Roland Juno D, Access Virus TI 2, Korg M3, Korg Oasys, Roland TR-8, Korg Kronos 2 88 Platinum. |
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kimu Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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lcmorley wrote: | Anyway, I had the extreme, and loved it. Never been anywhere near a v-synth though so cannot comment.
Why don't you want to gig your M3? |
it seems to me a little bit fragile (just as feeling i have no a real proof of that) to be brought intensively on the road and given the price i would avoid any risk... |
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