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akuaku · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 4

Recently I bought my m3, and it sounds fantastic. So far i got nothing to complain about, except one thing:

it takes too much time for it to change between the sounds. I don't know how heavily this has been discussed earlier, but i have done a little searching, and found others who have the same problem.

Of course, it's the same on all the m3s, but I would really like to know if this is an issue that can or cannot be solved through an OS update, or maybe if there's a setting in some way that can improve the speed. I tried the oasys some time ago, and that was quite a different experience!:p not much more to say about that.

I'm thinking this is a huge con during live performances, as a fragment (but yet a very noticable fragment) of the sound gets completely gone as one change programs/combis.

Anyone knows anything about this that could be helpful? Smile

shrike · Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject:

Did you update to latest OS? Should solve timing issue.

akuaku · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 4

If v.1.04 is the latest, then yes, my system is updated. However, i can't see in the OS notes that there is a fix for the speed...

shrike · Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject:

It isn't written in release notes, yes, but people on this forum already posted about that issue and there were post about speed improvement after updating. Search a bit.

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akuaku · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 4

It should definately be instant. Try the oasys and you'll know what i mean... yes, i know the m3 isn't supposed to be like the oasys in terms of quality, but there are older keyboards who are much faster to do this than the m3 is. The m3 isn't 'slow', but due to the fact that this is korg's newest workstation at the market, my expectation to this was a little bit higher...

the main reason why i posted, however, was to try to get an answer to whether it is possible or not to fix this in a software update. One would think this is a hardware issue, but if someone knows the answer to this, i would appreciate it:)

bctines · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject:

Am curious about:

Is it the software change that bothers you, or the combination of the software change plus the button pushes?

If the button thing is a bother, try putting all your stage progs/combis in slots adjacent to each other in the same bank and in the order needed for your set list. Then, staring with your first, just make sure the prog/combi field is highlighted then you can INC/DEC instantly with the ^v buttons.

Animal · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:00 am Post subject:

bctines · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:58 am Post subject:

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akuaku · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 4

thanks for all the feedback on this!

personally i use a pedal for prog/combi changes so i don't have to move my hands off the keyboard, but this doesn't change the speed of the change itself of course. when the sustain pedal is held down while changing sounds, the sound doesn't get sustained very well either, it is very noticable indeed that something changes, and this as well was a very disappointing thing to discover...

i also feared that this problem was in the hardware and not in the software, thus not allowing it to be fixed easily. still i would be glad to hear someone confirming the opposite:p

lcmorley · Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:00 am Post subject:

This is where I miss my Virus TI. I wish I never sold it. When you move from one sound to the other, the previous sound just decays naturally as it would if you were releasing without changing the sound, and the new one is always there waiting. No timing issues, no issues with cutting out the old sound etc. I wish Korg would take a leaf out of other companies books.
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Animal · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:15 am Post subject:

Maybe this silence between sounds is caused by unpacking of compressed samples, while Oasys' sounds are not compressed.
I got the idea from here.

dorremifasol · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:16 am Post subject:

The delay is produced by the overhead of having to reset an configure all the settings for a voice, specially the Insert and master Effects.

You don't get delay if you change a voice in combi or sequence mode because there's no such overhead.