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dorremifasol

I'm disappointed with the M3 EGs, specially the Amplitude Envelope. The time that takes between an update and the next is so long that you can actually hear them if the decay time is short enough. And, if you make a really short decay, there is simply no decay, but a sudden off after a too long beep.

The rest is great, having the chance of configuring each EG curve is amazing, but... they should be smoother.

So, is there any chance to have softer, or faster envelope generators with an OS update?

Cheers

r12 · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject:

I konow that m3 env are faster than tritons : same values doesn't make same enveloppes, but by increasing values and adjust with curves you can make very precise env

filters are not the same too (resonances are better on tritons)

but there are so many things better on m3... Very Happy

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dorremifasol · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject:

I'm serious about this... for me it almost ruins the sound quality of the M3.

I can't understand why other people hasn't complained yet, perhaps I expect too much from a professional sound machine?

Take for example one of my very favorite M3 sounds, INT-A:080:Reed E.Piano. Now play it and push the joystick towards you, this will decrease the EG decay time. The effect is much more noticeable on high notes and without the reverb masking it. The volume steps are clearly noticeable!

Unknown Sound · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject:

dorremifasol · Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject:

No it's not the same. I'm not talking about moving the joystick constantly to change the volume of the sound (which would produce a hand made modulation), I'm talking about changing the EG decay time, by using the joystick in that program, but without moving it all the time.

r12 · Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:23 am Post subject:

I've tried your example, and I think the problem is not EG but filter's resonance, if you set resonance modulation to 0 there is no "artefact"
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YAMAHA W5 + TRITON proX (exb MOSS / exb PCM01 / exb PCM05 / exb SCSI / 64Mo) + M3-73 No.000187 v2.0 (exb Radias v2.0 / exb M256) + DOEPFER LMK2+
AKAI DPS16 + MINDPRINT Envoice + ART Dual MP + RODE NT1000
BEHRINGER DDX3216 + 4 MACKIE SRM350 + 2 MACKIE SWA1501 (+ PEAVEY KB300 )
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