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John_J Junior Member
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 66 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: KARMA Vs. TR |
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Hi, everyone!
Any thoughts on this?
I have a friend living near me wanting to sell me his KARMA.
I am also considering buying a new TR.
Can anyone help me decide with pros and cons? Thanks! _________________ Just got my M50!!! |
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Teh Mick Full Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 131 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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KARMA without hesistation, before first it had the KARMA architecture which is more flexible and powerful than Triton Arp. The Korg Karma has also 5 IFX and 2 MFX when the TR has 1 IFX and 2 MFX. The only downside for the Karma is that it lack sampling support and use floppy disk. _________________ Korg Kronos 61
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bsr2002 Senior Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 388 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Another vote for KARMA _________________ Eat Right * Exercise * Die Anyway
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Live Rig: Roland Fantom X6, KORG TR61, Yamaha Motif ES6
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Stephen Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Aug 2002 Posts: 4709
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 975 Location: from a mile high to the the AZ desert
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Count me in on the Karma side of the opinions as well. it is a great inspirational instrument. I would recommend that you pick up sounds from Karma-labs (reincarnation as well as Ozzy's two) as well as EJ2's sound banks for the Karma. They really show off the Karma well.
My 2 cents
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4NDRW Full Member
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 158 Location: melbourne, australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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i have a karma... but i'd try get one of the tritons or the TR/micro-x/x-50
i might be selling mine soon after getting a micro-x
i dont find the karma function very useful... the presets seem to just generate jingles, the controls are all over the place, and you can't edit the karma generated effects on the board without purchasing seperate expensive software. its a nice idea, but i dont think it was implemented very well.
from what ive read, karma v2 in the m3 and oasys sounds alot more usable.
dont get my wrong, it sounds great and is fun to use
but i would have preferred a sampler, so a triton or tritonrack would have suited my needs more.
the micro-x is great. it strips away many of the features i didn't use much, into a cheap, portable package and is easier to integrate into a computer setup with its vst plugin editor
it also has alot more modern electronic sounds.
and has the same triton sound engine (with only 1 insert fx)
so i should be able to move most of my favourite patches over.
the point comes and goes with this post..... it's some stupid hour of the morning. _________________ Harpy.com.au |
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Gargamel314 Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Posts: 1147 Location: Carneys Point, NJ
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Apples and Oranges... wow that's a tough choice. There are some pretty big differences -
Karma Pros:
KARMA function (big pro if you intend on using it in sequencing and live performances, but useless if all you want to do is play straight from the keyboard)
more insert effects (five total simultaneously)
card slots for PCM sample ROM cards (practically a must for this instrument)
cooler looking
lots of controller knobs.
Cons:
uses 3.5" floppy disk drive to save data.
absolutely no option for sampling
no USB compatibility - MIDI in/out/thru only
Korg TR Pros:
USB compatibility
More on-board sample data (32 MB more than the Karma)
Sampling-capable if you buy the option
USB-compatible
More realistic piano sound.
Saves data onto SmartMedia cards
Custom samples can be loaded if you purchase the appropriate sample RAM cards.
Cons:
no KARMA ability unless you buy PC software ("KARMA Triton" software) and use for sequencing.
only one insert effect, sort of defeats the purpose of having insert effects
no card slot
Here's the link to the original promotional video for the KARMA, it's not easy to find... and check out the TR also at www.korg.com too |
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Xenomorph Senior Member
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 350 Location: U.S.A
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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If I had to choose, I'd go with the Karma. Thank goodness I have both _________________ Life is short, play a KORG!
Current: Pa5X, Nautilus
Past: M1, X5D, N364, Karma, X50, TR61, M50, micro-Korg, Triton Extreme, Pa3x, Roland Fantom 06, Akai mpc key61 |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: |
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I dont know why people NO SAMPLING take it as CONS.
The synth wasnt intended for that and thats all to it.
nd in no way TR can be compared to Karma, it makes no sense and its funny. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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bsr2002 Senior Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 388 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Gargamel314"]
Saves data onto SmartMedia cards
Custom samples can be loaded if you purchase the appropriate sample RAM cards.
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Uses SD Cards _________________ Eat Right * Exercise * Die Anyway
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Jerry Lankenau
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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KARMA is absolutely the best option
you just have to add the exb moss
and two expantion exb cards (concert piano and orchestra, preffered)
and you will get a very powerfull synth
very usefull on stage
and it as very cool look
sincerely
A proud KARMA owner |
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DeacondDesperado
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've had my TR for awhile, and while I love it and the options it offers I've been aspiring to move up to the KARMA (most likely via an eBay purchase) for awhile.
I use mine for live performances, and in this it simply can't be beat. _________________ Don't fear the eyes of the Dark Lord!
Myopia, True New England Power Metal
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bmstylee
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 27
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: |
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from just playing with mine that i got recently i like the red board. but one of each is a good idea too. |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 10402
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Definitely go KARMA
Had mine for quite a long time - still blows me away. The Combi collections available from Karma-labs are outstanding - check them out too - there are lots of MP3 samples on the website ( http://www.karma-lab.com )
Cheers
Pete _________________ PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
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vectorsynth
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 38 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:39 am Post subject: |
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another go for the karma ... as an alternate preload I use
"classic light studio" from the download area, 4 banks with sounds from Triton LE and and Studio in it. Of course no Triton arpeggiator.
I don't miss my TR at all ... _________________ Korg M3-73 EXB Radias, Triton Extreme 76, Korg Karma, Wavestation EX, Trinity, m1 |
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