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Roman Fyngerz



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Action Modification??? Reply with quote

Hey Korg brothers,

Id really like to get my Triton pro's action and keys modified to be faster (current action is kinda "mushy"). The idea struck me hard after I had my hands on an old Yamaha DX7 a couple weeks ago in a local music store. The action on it was REALLY quick/responsive. Does anyone know of someone who does this. I definately DO NOT want to switch to a different keyboard, just want to beef-up the current action.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

You could try to take the key bed out and grease all the points on the keyboard to give them a smother action.

Mike
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Roman Fyngerz



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uktechsupport wrote:
Hi

You could try to take the key bed out and grease all the points on the keyboard to give them a smother action.

Mike


Thanks so much for the reply. Its smooth, its just not fast enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Years ago I modded a DW8000 and a Roland rd200 to speed up the action.
If you open the the keyboard to expose the key bed you will see that the hook beneath the keys bears on a felt stop that restricts and damps the upward travel of the keys. Increasing the thickness of the felt lowers the action and reduces the key travel.
On a velocity sensitive keyboard there are always two contacts; one to register the start and one to register the end of travel. What you can achieve is reducing the dead zone between rest and start. The same applies whether the contacts are wire between buss bars or "rubber bubble/carbon to circuitboard.
Go to a piano specialist to buy the felt as they will supply the quality required i.e. dense but compliant. Craft shop felt is too loose and will compress too much. You will need two or three different thicknesses, between 1 and 3 mm say,as it's a "trial and error" exercise to get optimum results.
Slice the felt to a suitable width and progressively feed it under the keys by depressing each one in turn There should be no need to remove any of the keys.
If you overdo it and go beyond the "start" contact, all notes will come out at maximum velocity/volume. Take this as an indication that you have gone too far!
If you are really obsessive you can restict the movement between the "end" contact and the key bottoming.

If you get it all working correctly it's possible to achieve a blindingly fast action that can explode under your fingers; but be prepared to relearn the
brain/finger thingy. Smile
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Roman Fyngerz



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

foxy wrote:
Hi,
Years ago I modded a DW8000 and a Roland rd200 to speed up the action.
If you open the the keyboard to expose the key bed you will see that the hook beneath the keys bears on a felt stop that restricts and damps the upward travel of the keys. Increasing the thickness of the felt lowers the action and reduces the key travel.
On a velocity sensitive keyboard there are always two contacts; one to register the start and one to register the end of travel. What you can achieve is reducing the dead zone between rest and start. The same applies whether the contacts are wire between buss bars or "rubber bubble/carbon to circuitboard.
Go to a piano specialist to buy the felt as they will supply the quality required i.e. dense but compliant. Craft shop felt is too loose and will compress too much. You will need two or three different thicknesses, between 1 and 3 mm say,as it's a "trial and error" exercise to get optimum results.
Slice the felt to a suitable width and progressively feed it under the keys by depressing each one in turn There should be no need to remove any of the keys.
If you overdo it and go beyond the "start" contact, all notes will come out at maximum velocity/volume. Take this as an indication that you have gone too far!
If you are really obsessive you can restict the movement between the "end" contact and the key bottoming.

If you get it all working correctly it's possible to achieve a blindingly fast action that can explode under your fingers; but be prepared to relearn the
brain/finger thingy. Smile


Wow, thanks soooo much!!! Im going to print this out for the local tech. guy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're wellcome,

At last I've been able to contribute something to this forum after learning so much from others . Thanks to you all.
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