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dylhall
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: using same effects pedals on my guitar and synth? |
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There has to be a way! I play guitar and synth in my band. I have several effects pedals that I tradionally use for my guitar (EH Memory Man, Moog Ring Modulator, EH Big Muff), and I've recently discovered during recording that they are awesome on my Korg R3. My problem is that I can't figure out a way to utilize this live by using my effects pedals on both my guitar AND synth since my guitar and synth are going to seperate amps. I don't use my guitar amp for my synth (it's a Fender Hot Rod Deville) because I don't think it can hanle the low end of my synth. Because of this, I can't simply split the signal using a mixer. I also don't want to purchase these pedals again, because that would cost another $800 or so. Does anyone know of a way that I can accomplish this? |
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JonSolo Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Get an inexpensive stereo mixer with an effects insert. Pan your guitar input left and your keyboard input right. Run the effects in mono, and mute whichever channel you are not using. Left out into your guitar amp and right out into your keyboard amp.
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dylhall
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:25 am Post subject: Thanks |
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I will try this for sure |
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dylhall
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: have you done this |
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have you done this yourself? I'm not very tech savy, so forgive me! I just want to know if I'll lose any tonal quality doing this with a mixer. |
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JonSolo Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Well you could lose quality somewhat but it would not be noticeable in a live situation. I really would not worry about that.
I have done many crazy things both live and in the studio. This is fairly common and easy as long as you use a stereo mixing board.
There are many other ways, but this one seemed the simplest.
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dylhall
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: cool |
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thanks again for responding, this has been puzzling me for weeks, it's nice to have a solution. |
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dylhall
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JonSolo Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I see no reason why it would not work.
Basic routing-
Guitar to Line In channel 1, panned left, FX on full.
Keyboards to Line In channel 2, panned right, FX on full.
FX send out to your effect pedals.
From your pedals out, back IN to Aux. Return L/mono.
Aux. Return volume up full.
Main out Left to your guitar amp.
Main out Right to your keyboard amp.
Adjust the mix to fit whatever instrument you are playing.
With the FX up to max, it should eliminate the dry signal altogether, but you may want to look into this before committing to the purchase.
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dylhall
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: great |
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I can't wait to try this, I will let you know once I do! Thanks |
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chinard Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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those pedals you mentioned are actually outstanding pedals to use with synths to begin with.
Also i am using that exact mixer with my moog voyager setup for the effects loop and it works great. _________________ http://www.delicamusic.com
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Diego Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
Moog pedals are amazing...
But for synths, Boss pedals works very well on lead.
Remember that most of them are mono (for guitar processing).
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dylhall
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, these pedals sound awesome on the R3 for sure! |
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