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shrike Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 670 Location: Croatia, Dugo Selo
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Balkan musicians would probably considers M50 more appealing than M3, because Karma isn't very suitable for what we play, so lack of it wouldn't be a big minus.
6 banks of sounds is also suitable enough.
But lack of sampler will definitely be a turn-off. We play specific acoustic instrument Korg never made multisamples of, that's why sampler is essential for our music. I can't figure why Korg decided to eliminate this, I would say basic and maybe most important, feature from new keyboard when every previous in Triton line had it, like Sani said.
No one will buy that keyboard here if it stays this way. |
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lcmorley Senior Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 311 Location: Cardiff, South Wales, UK.
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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I am not sure if my memory serves me correctly, wasn't the LE originally released sampler-less. (Sorry may not be a word)
I seem to remember that it was an add on expansion.
Maybe this is the way Korg are thinking of going again to keep the price of the M50 down for those who don't need it. _________________ Music is the stuff Dreams are made of!!!
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kimu Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1133 Location: Italy,Milan
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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it is always a tradeoff ....
korg have to keep price low and have to create a workstation with a specific market niche not overlapped with other korg WS, hence some features have to be sacrified...
probably it all depends either on costs (e.g. maybe leaving multisample reduce costs more than leaving sequencer) or on marketing requirements (e.g. maybe korg MKT assumes sequencer is best than sampler for sell)
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TSUNAMI Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Posts: 597 Location: Watford, Hertfordshire UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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there is also on release an 88 key variety ... not sure if its weighted yet though ( Probably is ... ) _________________ 13in Retina MacBook Pro, Quadcore i5 27in 8GB iMac, Logic Studio 9.1, Ableton Live9, Push, Volca Beats, Korg KRONOS 61, Korg Arp odyssey, Roland D50, Yamaha SY85, Moog Sub37, Roland TR8, Roland SP808, Korg NanoPad2, Eventide H9, Presonus 1602, Alesis M1 MkII, Yamaha APX5, Fender Splattercaster, DrumKat DK10, 1000 miles of cable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Milter Junior Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 54 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I just hope for those who buy it, that the keys are better than on the LE. _________________ Kurzweil PC1SE
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kimu Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1133 Location: Italy,Milan
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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maybe are the same of M3 but don't think so. hope are not the same of x50 |
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curvebender Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 784 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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The new M 50 really looks great!!
Much more so than the odd M3... _________________ Paul: Don't be nervous.
John: I'M NOT NERVOUS!!! |
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Synthoid Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Posts: 3300 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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lcmorley wrote: | I am not sure if my memory serves me correctly, wasn't the LE originally released sampler-less. (Sorry may not be a word)
I seem to remember that it was an add on expansion.
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That's true....so the M50 may have sampling as an option.
There are many people out there, however, who never use sampling features on a workstation. _________________ M3, Triton Classic, Radias, Motif XS, Alesis Ion |
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 975 Location: from a mile high to the the AZ desert
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like the new M50 is going after a specific price point to reach a market that has less money to put toward a keyboard. The trade off is some features have to be abandoned to achieve that price point. Its a yin and yang thang.
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jerrythek Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Posts: 2931
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Full info, new video, Mp3's and more at:
www.korg.com/m50
Enjoy!
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: |
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nitecrawler wrote: | It looks like the new M50 is going after a specific price point to reach a market that has less money to put toward a keyboard. The trade off is some features have to be abandoned to achieve that price point. Its a yin and yang thang.
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True. The M50 does not have KARMA, for example. However, I have somewhat rectified that situation with the announcement of the impending release of KARMA M50 Software. So if you don't mind using a computer, you can have the same KARMA engine as the M3, and the same sounds; and use it with your M50. _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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klarnet basowy Senior Member
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Great news!
The M50 appears to be a very good affordable workstation.
And I think I could like the double arpegiator more than the un-editable-patterns of the Karma beast. :p
I think it will sell a lot _________________ Kurzweil PC361
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klarnet basowy Senior Member
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ehm.. can we have this page also in the M3.. please please please
_________________ Kurzweil PC361
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klarnet basowy Senior Member
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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The manual of the M50 says "no aftertouch" for the keyboard: is it true?
The TR has it! _________________ Kurzweil PC361
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jerrythek Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Posts: 2931
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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klarnet basowy wrote: | The manual of the M50 says "no aftertouch" for the keyboard: is it true?
The TR has it! |
Correct, no aftertouch in the M50. It is based on a different keybed than the TR.
But when you make these comparisons please note where we put all the money/cost for the M50 as compared to the TR:
4x the ROM
larger touchView interface
improved synthesis and the full effects (not just 1 insert FX)
Of course there are more features as well, but I'm not trying to "spin" you with all the Marketing-speak I am capable of...
regards,
Jerry |
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