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Bank Numbers for EXP Boards

 
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UKSimon
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Bank Numbers for EXP Boards Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anyone know the MSB and LSB numbers for selecting programmes/combinations on the expansion boards over midi? I know the internal bank commands, but I can't find out which numbers to use to select the external banks a-f.

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Simon
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bank CC#0 Value CC#32 Value
A 00 00
B 00 01
C 00 02
D 00 03
E 00 04
F (must have MOSS) 00 05

General Midi
GM 121 00
g(1) 121 01
g(2) 121 02
g(3) 121 03
g(4) 121 04
g(5) 121 05
g(6) 121 06
g(7) 121 07
g(8) 121 08
g(9) 121 09
g(d) 120 00

Extended Banks (Triton Rack ONLY!)
e-A 00 08
e-B 00 09
e-C 00 10
e-D 00 11
e-E 00 12
e-F 00 13
e-G 00 14
e-H 00 15

The first two events should happen one right after the other (not on the same tick), and must be the continuous controllers (Bank Select controller #0 and #32). The order does not matter. The third event is the program change and must also happen after the CC's.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dave you're a star

Cheers

Simon
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

As a follow up, do you know how to select combination banks as well. I'm writing a Cubase Patch script and selecting different combinations is the next challenge.

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Simon
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't use Cubase so I'm guessing at what you want to do here. You can simply hit the appropriate Mode button (Program or Combination) on the synth's front panel and the same numbers will work with that Mode.

If, however, you're not near the synth, you can use the following sysex strings to change Mode remotely:

Combi:
F0 42 30 50 4E 00 F7

Prog:
F0 42 30 50 4E 02 F7

Multi:
F0 42 30 50 4E 04 F7

Sampling:
F0 42 30 50 4E 06 F7

Global:
F0 42 30 50 4E 07 F7

Disk:
F0 42 30 50 4E 08 F7

For Combis and Programs, follow these sysex strings with bank and program select numbers. For Multis, follow with song selects (if you have multiple Multis already set up).

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again Dave

I didn't realise that the Combis would use the same LSB MSB numbers as programme mode.

Just so that you know, I'm writing a script which is imported into Cubase and allows me to select Programmes or Combinations from within the Cubase arrange window by name. I'm writing this by catagory rather than patch number order so all my strings, brass etc are grouped.

Writing these things is very labour intensive (any mistakes and the thing won't load) but worthwhile. I've done it for all my other synths but never quite got round to doing it for my Triton Rack.

Many thanks for you help

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Simon
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Macs which provide patchlist functionality with .midnam files (XML). I used to write all my own by hand. This, I agree, was a laborious and tricky task. Just one tiny error and everything was out of whack.

These days I use an app called Cherrypicker which makes it all simple, quick, and more or less foolproof. Cherrypicker will also create categorised banks for any instrument if the user wishes.

Good luck with it!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think the instructions you give works also for X50?
Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cecket wrote:
Do you think the instructions you give works also for X50?
Thanks in advance!


most likely. The X50 is still a triton, despite how badly crippled it is.

most of them use the same commands, for example if i hook my TR up to a Triton Extreme they would change banks together.

anyway, the best solution is to just try it! you can't break it....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

X-Trade wrote:
cecket wrote:
Do you think the instructions you give works also for X50?
Thanks in advance!


...
anyway, the best solution is to just try it! you can't break it....


Of course, but now I'm not near my devices Smile
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