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CharlesD · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 6

Thanks in advance for the advice

Liking the MS with just over 48 hours of ownership but have a couple of things that I'm really struggling with:

1. How does the sample timing (for one shoot or loop) work? It seems to assign random max times allowed - for example i can sample at one point at it will allow me to set it to 16 secs max then i try to sample the next key and it tells me 3 secs and stops after that time? I'm struggling to sample which is obviously the whole point of the machine - tried reading the manual several times but it doesn't really talk about how to change your sampling time

What I want to do is just punch sample parts of vinyl tracks and then assign them to each key - at the moment its just giving me random sampling times every time i try to sample. Maybe I need to grasp the 1.4 style options?

2. Also with the pattern sequencer every time I try to write to the pattern it plays back their demo patterns along with what i am playing - wonder what i need to do to remedy that as im sure that's easy enough to change

Apologise about the basic level of advice needed here but I am still struggling to find owners of this sampler to chat with so joined up here

jbl · Full Member Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 100

sounds like you're stuck in the factory rom. choose bank, change your bank and press enter until the lights scroll across the keyboard completely. at which point you should be set.

when i sample, it always goes back to the preferences i was using last time i sampled in that bank but if you change banks or turn it off it will reset to factory presets i think.

also, you can initialize to clear banks. mostly get to know your manual. Technical manuals aren't always simple to grasp but that's the beuaty and the beast of it, ain't it.

MarsHottentot · Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 16

jbl, you can't wipe the presets, right?
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CharlesD · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 6

thanks jbl yeh i needed to erase the preset patterns first now it works a treat

every time i sit down with it i learn so much more - like the amazing talkbox-daft punk esque capabilities of the Grain Shift if set to real time mic - sounds great

i am still struggling to understand why the sample time allowed changes so erratically every time i want to sample - can smtimes be 16 sec then when i go to sample on the next key its like 4 secs then it stops

other than that im gettin there just through using it

i also need to work out how to copy pattern 1 onto pattern 2 so i can build on that as at the moment it seems like i have to start form scratch with each new pattern?

jbl · Full Member Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 100

marshotentot(fixed)
no, you can't erase factory rom. but evrything else (banks a-h) is erasable (if not already blank).

copy sample and/or pattern is actually the load function. the old pattern stays the same but you will then have a copy on the designated destination.
i like to sample my pattern (which i can't do on any of my sp's) then apply effects. i can essentially use this as a 12 track (up to eight bars perfectly synced).

as far as the sample timing cutoff; try and give me a rundown of your steps.

CharlesD · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 6

ahh yeh of course load the pattern (pattern 1 say) from that bank into the next pattern (pattern 2) - yeh that makes sense now - thanks for that

To sample heres what I am doing

Selecting loop samping mode
Select key to sample to
Hit Sample button then turning dial until I see Sample time on the screen - at this point sometimes it can be 31 secs max then when i try the next key it can be as low as 1 sec max

all im wanting is a consistent amount of time allowing me to sample then manually hit the sample button to stop the sample but often i dont have enough time allocated to be able to which can be frustrating

it must be something really obvious that im doing or not doing

softroom · Junior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 58

The sample time you see is the overall free sample time for the bank you're in. So if you use it all up on one key, it's gonna be unavailable for the next. If you set it to, say, 4 seconds on one then move to another, you should have 4 seconds for each subsequent key without you needing to tweak the setting, until there are no more 4 second chunks. Similarly if you set your time in bars rather than seconds.

Does this help?

MarsHottentot · Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 16

Thanks jbl, it's great your mom lets you do this between diaper changes.
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CharlesD · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 6

that does help softroom - i think my problem may lie with setting the bank to a new bank rather than staying in rom - i will continue to play and see as i know there should be 160 secs each bank is that right?

jbl · Full Member Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 100

softroom · Junior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 58

CharlesD · Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 6

true -well on my keys are still the original generic supplied sounds so that must indicate that i havnt actually left the rom hence the small sample times im seeing as the rom's full other than when i replace a sound with a new one

Gnna set up in the studio as ive been playin with the ms on my lap in front rooms etc since christmas so gnna get the pc hooked up in a bit and start transferred some of the banks ive prepared from the software

thanks for your help anyway highly appreciated

softroom · Junior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 58

Have fun!

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MarsHottentot · Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Posts: 16

jbl · Full Member Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 100

iceberg. i'm still learning myself, mostly on the technical side like how much does the milliseconds start and stop function in global affect anything?

charles, once you get to bank a and initialize, you'll be golden. the software is pretty good and once you get it up and running (slightly challenging part) it will help with understanding the ms-1