Korg Forums Forum Index Korg Forums
A forum for Korg product users and musicians around the world.
Moderated Independently.
Owned by Irish Acts Recording Studio & hosted by KORG USA
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Kronos vector joystick

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korg Forums Forum Index -> Korg Kronos
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Ksynth
Platinum Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Posts: 1216
Location: Northern California, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Kronos vector joystick Reply with quote

Can the vector joystick be applied to any (or all) of the sound modules?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
EvilDragon
Platinum Member


Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 1992
Location: Croatia

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it can be used as mod source pretty much anywhere, yes.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cello
Platinum Member


Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Posts: 2152
Location: Glasgow, UK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming it's the same as on the O, then the answer is yes.
_________________
Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, MX-1, TR-09, TR-8, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton Suite, KRK Rokit 5,
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ozy
Guest





PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the joystick is just a x/y joystick, set on midi controllers cc 16 and 17.

So, it will transmit any combination of those two CCs to any engine.

Question is: will those engines do anything significant when receiving those two controllers?

the "Wavestation" engine will use them for vector synthesis control,

but if there's no vector synthesis logic in the engine, you won't be able to "vectorize" - let's say - a rhodes patch.

So:

yes, it will work on any engine (and external synths),

no, having a joystick on the surface doesn't automatically add vector synthesis to any engine, only to VS engines.

Now my qiestion is:

does any kronos engine, besides of the WS emulation, include any VS logic?

My wavestation has one very sweet hammond preset which will have different drawbar presets "mixed" by a combination of mod wheel and joystick. It'll go from a 888888888 full hymn to a 000000008 eerie whistle smoothly.

Nice!

Having that on the b3 emulation would be good (but it requires the engine to be ready for it)
Back to top
EvilDragon
Platinum Member


Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 1992
Location: Croatia

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can even select which CCs will be transmitted with the vector joystick. Essentially it's another controller. Doesn't necessarily have to be used for vectoring...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
danatkorg
Product Manager, Korg R&D


Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Posts: 4123
Location: California, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ozy wrote:
the joystick is just a x/y joystick, set on midi controllers cc 16 and 17.

So, it will transmit any combination of those two CCs to any engine.

Question is: will those engines do anything significant when receiving those two controllers?

the "Wavestation" engine will use them for vector synthesis control,

but if there's no vector synthesis logic in the engine, you won't be able to "vectorize" - let's say - a rhodes patch.

So:

yes, it will work on any engine (and external synths),

no, having a joystick on the surface doesn't automatically add vector synthesis to any engine, only to VS engines.

Now my qiestion is:

does any kronos engine, besides of the WS emulation, include any VS logic?

My wavestation has one very sweet hammond preset which will have different drawbar presets "mixed" by a combination of mod wheel and joystick. It'll go from a 888888888 full hymn to a 000000008 eerie whistle smoothly.

Nice!

Having that on the b3 emulation would be good (but it requires the engine to be ready for it)


I'd suggest having a look at the OASYS manual. Vector works the same in all synth engines. It does two things:
1. Volume control
2. MIDI CC control (CCs work as mod sources on internal sounds too) - can be configured as either two CCs (x and y) or four CCs (cardinal vectors)

In Programs, (1) modulates volume between the two osc/EXi

In Combis and Songs, each Program retains their individual vector envelope and assignments (the CCs go only to the individual Program; they're kept separate internally even if multiple Programs have the same MIDI channel), and then there's an additional vector setup for the Combi/Song as a whole. For the Combi/Song vector, you can assign each Program to the end of a volume control axis, or assign them to not be affected by Vector at all.

It's pretty deep.

- Dan
_________________
Dan Phillips
Manager of Product Development, Korg R&D
Personal website: www.danphillips.com
For technical support, please contact your Korg Distributor: http://www.korg.co.jp/English/Distributors/
Regretfully, I cannot offer technical support directly.
If you need to contact me for purposes other than technical support, please do not send PMs; instead, send email to dan@korgrd.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
cello
Platinum Member


Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Posts: 2152
Location: Glasgow, UK

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danatkorg wrote:
It's pretty deep.

- Dan


And it's very, very, very good Cool
_________________
Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, MX-1, TR-09, TR-8, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton Suite, KRK Rokit 5,
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ksynth
Platinum Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Posts: 1216
Location: Northern California, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, pretty good news overall then.

Thanks to all.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korg Forums Forum Index -> Korg Kronos All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group