Korg Forums Forum Index Korg Forums
A forum for Korg product users and musicians around the world.
Moderated Independently.
Owned by Irish Acts Recording Studio & hosted by KORG USA
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Why only 2 Oscs?
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korg Forums Forum Index -> Korg Kronos
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Biopharmer
Junior Member


Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 60

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Why only 2 Oscs? Reply with quote

All of Korg's VAs, including the AL-1, only have 2 oscillators. Why? Would it kill them to add a third?

Oh, I'm sure it can sound amazing, and Mike Conway's videos have sold me already, but still... I'm used to having 1 oscillator at -12 semitones, one at 0, and one at +12, and then detuning the two higher ones slightly. It sounds awesome. But you can't really do that with 2. Unless I missed that there are sub-oscillators.

Anyway, I'm liking what i'm hearing though, i'll just have to come up with new programming habits.
_________________
DX7 w/ E!, TX81Z, Micron, AN1X, Waldorf Blofeld, Alesis QSR, Proteus /2, Poly-800, Poly-61, Ensoniq Mirage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
EvilDragon
Platinum Member


Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 1992
Location: Croatia

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up to 32 oscillators on a Kurzweil... 64, if you mix a VA oscillator and a keymap. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RichF
Senior Member


Joined: 02 Jul 2006
Posts: 435
Location: Hoboken, NJ

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AL-1 absolutely does have a sub oscillator... And remember that in a single Program, you can have two EXi engines at the same time, which doubles your oscillator count. Then, you get into Combis, and it multiplies again.

-Rich
_________________
Richard Formidoni
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
robinkle
Senior Member


Joined: 14 Jan 2011
Posts: 382
Location: Norway

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OSC1, OSC2, Sub-oscillator and noise generator; ring modulation, FM and Sync

Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Biopharmer
Junior Member


Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 60

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, nice! Sounds awesome. Yeah, I was surprised by what I heard from Mike Conway's videos. I especially like patches like the Woodbox Bass patch or Stack Bass patch or Two ClassicBasses. Does the Kronos have any built in chorus effects that could come close to the old Juno choruses (i'm talking about the actual original Juno series, not the lame new ones)?

Korg should do a synthpop demo of the Kronos. Erasure/Depeche Mode style.

I really like what I heard from the MOD-7 engine. I could finally pack up my DX-7 (it's ram battery died before I even got it haha, probably long before I was even born).
_________________
DX7 w/ E!, TX81Z, Micron, AN1X, Waldorf Blofeld, Alesis QSR, Proteus /2, Poly-800, Poly-61, Ensoniq Mirage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jeebustrain
Platinum Member


Joined: 24 Jan 2011
Posts: 1283
Location: In a Roger Dean painting

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichF wrote:
AL-1 absolutely does have a sub oscillator... And remember that in a single Program, you can have two EXi engines at the same time, which doubles your oscillator count. Then, you get into Combis, and it multiplies again.

-Rich



I'm not familiar with the AL-1 engine very much, but are you able to set up a modulation between individual oscillators between 2 engines?

For example, can you set up an LFO w/ S&H to modulate individual oscillator elements across 2 engines (like waveshape)? Or would you have to set up an LFO for each engine and sync them?

Other than the MS2000B, I'm fairly unfamiliar with most of Korg's VA stuff. The VA engine inside the Alesis Fusion is super flexible/routable (almost like a modular synth), so I've been kind of spoiled by the flexibility of it.
_________________
::: Korg Kronos 88 ::: Alesis Fusion 8HD ::: Kurzweil PC361 ::: Roland V-Synth ::: DSI Prophet 12 ::: DSI OB-6 ::: Korg Prophecy ::: Moog Micromoog ::: Yamaha CP-30 ::: Alesis Andromeda ::: Moog Sub37 ::: Sequential Prophet 600 ::: Korg MS2000BR ::: GSI Burn :::

My Music
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Biopharmer
Junior Member


Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 60

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeebustrain wrote:
RichF wrote:
AL-1 absolutely does have a sub oscillator... And remember that in a single Program, you can have two EXi engines at the same time, which doubles your oscillator count. Then, you get into Combis, and it multiplies again.

-Rich



I'm not familiar with the AL-1 engine very much, but are you able to set up a modulation between individual oscillators between 2 engines?

For example, can you set up an LFO w/ S&H to modulate individual oscillator elements across 2 engines (like waveshape)? Or would you have to set up an LFO for each engine and sync them?

Other than the MS2000B, I'm fairly unfamiliar with most of Korg's VA stuff. The VA engine inside the Alesis Fusion is super flexible/routable (almost like a modular synth), so I've been kind of spoiled by the flexibility of it.


Ooh! Good point! Yeah, I'd like to know too.
_________________
DX7 w/ E!, TX81Z, Micron, AN1X, Waldorf Blofeld, Alesis QSR, Proteus /2, Poly-800, Poly-61, Ensoniq Mirage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RichF
Senior Member


Joined: 02 Jul 2006
Posts: 435
Location: Hoboken, NJ

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. There's a common LFO (with sample & hold), frequency modulation, and a common step sequencer. That step sequencer is loaded with potential... When combined with AMS, it becomes a huge palette of modulation options.
_________________
Richard Formidoni
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Megakazbek
Junior Member


Joined: 04 Oct 2007
Posts: 92

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Why only 2 Oscs? Reply with quote

Biopharmer wrote:
All of Korg's VAs, including the AL-1, only have 2 oscillators. Why? Would it kill them to add a third?

MOD-7 has 7 oscs (including PCM oscillator).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sina172
Platinum Member


Joined: 29 May 2007
Posts: 1194

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...

Last edited by Sina172 on Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:26 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ozy
Guest





PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and imagine the power when you own 18 Kronos! wow!
Back to top
Sina172
Platinum Member


Joined: 29 May 2007
Posts: 1194

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...

Last edited by Sina172 on Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:09 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Jon Lord
Senior Member


Joined: 07 Sep 2007
Posts: 452
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sina172 wrote:
ozy wrote:
and imagine the power when you own 18 Kronos! wow!


Actually its 20. Very Happy

8 61 Notes, 4 73 Notes (for backup) and 8 88-Notes.

Sina
You really have that many varioations of all keyboards, I've heard rumors Wink, care to share a picture of your studio? sorry for offtopic
_________________
- Download & share Korg keyboard patches for free.
Korg M3-73 (Radias Exb & Warwick "RC 21728 B" case), Clavia Nord Electro 3.
[On Hold]: Elka MK-88. [Sold]: Roland XP-30, Access Virus C

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ozy
Guest





PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Lord wrote:
I've heard rumors Wink, care to share a picture of your studio?


come on, JonLord, don't spoil the fun!

The joke of the week is currently taking him to face value, wind him up and see what happens.

Next week we'll revert to checking his inventory and unwinding him Wink

Both way he's a wind-up puppet
Back to top
Sina172
Platinum Member


Joined: 29 May 2007
Posts: 1194

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...

Last edited by Sina172 on Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:19 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korg Forums Forum Index -> Korg Kronos All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group