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jahrome · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:35 pm Post subject:

Regarding the Motif XF, I am talking about its ability to burn 2 GB of your own samples to Flash Ram to immediately have at your finger tips when you turn on the unit. Of course it takes time to burn the sounds and a limit to how you can edit the sounds. But the Kronos doesn't appear to have anything to match this as far as user sampling in concerned. From its specs and what has been reported in the forum, we can't stream our own samples from the SSD. Hence the reason for the feature requests before it is even released. Whether the feature set of OS 1.0 (or what ever it is called) is finalized or not bares no importance in this thread. This is not some new request. If you read across numerous internet forums, you will see numerous threads about users wanting this capabilities in current and previous sampling workstations. As I said previously, these companies keep getting close but still come up short. As consumers, we should let companies know exactly what we want. The company then will decide if it is profitable enough to meet this demand.

And you know what's next....support for larger SSD's and streaming of 3rd party libraries (Kontakt, etc). Shocked

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Scott · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1015

I'd rather do all the sampling, sample editing, and key assigment on my computer, I don't care about having those functions in the Kronos itself, I would just like a really easy way to load them in from computer.

I don't need to sample live at a gig. At home, using a computer is easier; plus if I do the sample stuff on a computer, I'm not limited to only using my samples in the Kronos, I can use them in any other sample-loading machine I may have now or in the future.

I'd rather Korg put their development hours and efforts into things that can't just as easily be done some other way.

EvilDragon · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject:

EXer · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject:

Here is a list of sampling tools I would like to see included:

¤ ability to load and to play samples in .npno and .nsmp format

djtomy.d1 · Joined: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 13

+10

just not so sure for Clavia Wink

burningbusch · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject:

If the ac pianos and eps on the Kronos don't sound vastly better than a Nord I'll be shocked, but I seriously doubt that's going to happen. Can't you hear the split points, velocity jumps and static tone from the loops in those Nord EPs? To each his own.

Busch.

SpIdErWeB · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject:

I have to disagree on some points:

Even if HD-1 is different from Kontakt, nothing's impossible and Korg could easily release a HD-2 which is different from HD-1 and allows to load Kontakt Libraries with streaming from SSD. There's already 9 different EXi, so it's more than doable to have another one... and HD-1 will be still needed for current sounds.

Having Clavia sounds, or Kurzweil VAST synthesis is an utopia... I wish manufactures would work more together, but we know it won't happen. But NI isn't a keyboard manufacture and is providing Kontakt Player to 3rd party. So, this player could be coded for Kronos OS. We saw lot of partnership between hardware and software manufactures, so it's not an utopia.

Of course, we can have a Sample Editor on computer... but in that case, we can also have Sequencer, so no need to include it... and no need to include the sampler at all neither, and since we can also have DX7 sounds with FM8 or so, no need to allow the VPM to import DX7 presets neither, etc...etc... It's not because it's doable on a computer than Korg shouldn't include it in next Kronos update. I mainly think about easy and quick workflow for both studio work but also for live with some realtime editing with some loop sampler or so...

The Kronos needs to be a tool that is not a computer, I agree... and having a quick way to sample your current combi (with Open Sampling), edit it, add some FX and save it to re-use it as a Prog... that's something no computer will do with the Kronos... or at least, not in an easy and quick way.

For instance, Maschine from NI is very practical to quickly record, edit, chop and use sample...

Korg pronounce clearly that the Kronos is made for three markets:
- Live Performance
- Production (Workstation)
- Sound Design

For Sound Design, they do provide some tools with great Editable Synthesis... So, it's 200% normal to request them to have equivalent tools for Sampling and Sample Editing which is another part of the sound design.

It's not like requesting innovative features never made. It's just a matter of bringing back on Workstation the real Sampler features that have been forgotten for so long time on all last decade Workstations.

Phil

EXer · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject:

EvilDragon · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:44 pm Post subject:

SpIdErWeB · Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject:

I worked for Open Labs R&D for 4+ years... I think I do know a little bit more than you could think. However, I agree it will surely won't happen... but for other reasons...

But you know what? Let me ask Daniel (NI's CEO) and James (NI's Senior Product Designer) when I'll saw them at MusikMesse...

Phil

burningbusch · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:23 am Post subject:

jahrome · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:41 am Post subject:

sani · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:14 am Post subject:

jahrome · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:44 am Post subject:

burningbusch · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject:

This is the reason I'm not overly interested in workstation-based sample editing. Just using a few of the auto functions in Redmatica KeyMap can save hours of manual editing.

http://www.redmatica.com/movies/Quadrasmooth.mov

Busch.