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kandarv
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Posts: 35
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: Rich F demo the Kronos at Novamusik |
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New video, with a very detailed demo of the Kronos with Rich F.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKnSqARidMQ
This one really makes me wonder, Should I skip Nord Wave and go directly to the Kronos? Though choices and I can't justify both. I'm getting the Tempest too, so that's a lot money, to me at least, on music gear. _________________ Gear: Motif XS6, Ultranova & Korg M50-73
Looking for: Nord Wave, Tetr4 & Virus Ti2 |
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orpheus2006 Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 597 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Rich F demo the Kronos at Novamusik |
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Thx for sharing this info, and many thanks to Rich for this excellent demo! _________________ www.soundcloud.com/orpheus2006
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Korg M3-88 w/ EXB-Radias, Yamaha Motif Rack w/ PLG150-AN & PLG150-DR, Novation A-Station, RME Multiface II Audio Interface, Thinkpad T60 Notebook w/ Sonar X3 and various VSTi, Event TR8 monitors, Beyerdynamic DT-770 headphones |
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robinkle Senior Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 382 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Rich Says, all of the Kronos Synthesis engines run as a plug-in in your favorite DAW. Does it mean that you have one plug-in for each engine? Or a plugin incorporating all synthesis engines? could mean the same thing, or maby not. Someone who is good in english might get the right answer for me. |
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Jon Lord Senior Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 452 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice demo, don't know how you found it, has not yet been indexed in youtube (atleast when searching for kronos and sorting by date) _________________ - Download & share Korg keyboard patches for free.
Korg M3-73 (Radias Exb & Warwick "RC 21728 B" case), Clavia Nord Electro 3.
[On Hold]: Elka MK-88. [Sold]: Roland XP-30, Access Virus C
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Citizen Klaus Full Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 171 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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robinkle wrote: | Rich Says, all of the Kronos Synthesis engines run as a plug-in in your favorite DAW. Does it mean that you have one plug-in for each engine? Or a plugin incorporating all synthesis engines? could mean the same thing, or maby not. Someone who is good in english might get the right answer for me. |
Based on what Rich said in the video, it sounds like the Kronos will offer something similar to the M3's editor -- a single plug-in that streams both audio and sysex to your computer DAW. You can create and edit programs/combis through the editor interface, and save them to a file on your computer's hard drive. Load the file at a later time, and the Kronos automatically updates to reflect the file's contents.
It would be cool if the plug-in functionality went deeper than that, but I'd say the above is what we can reasonably expect. It's still pretty nice to be able to program the synth from entirely within a DAW project. |
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Synthoid Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Posts: 3300 Location: PA, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure if it's YouTube or my connection, but it kept stalling. I'll try later _________________ M3, Triton Classic, Radias, Motif XS, Alesis Ion |
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robinkle Senior Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 382 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Citizen Klaus wrote: | robinkle wrote: | Rich Says, all of the Kronos Synthesis engines run as a plug-in in your favorite DAW. Does it mean that you have one plug-in for each engine? Or a plugin incorporating all synthesis engines? could mean the same thing, or maby not. Someone who is good in english might get the right answer for me. |
Based on what Rich said in the video, it sounds like the Kronos will offer something similar to the M3's editor -- a single plug-in that streams both audio and sysex to your computer DAW. You can create and edit programs/combis through the editor interface, and save them to a file on your computer's hard drive. Load the file at a later time, and the Kronos automatically updates to reflect the file's contents.
It would be cool if the plug-in functionality went deeper than that, but I'd say the above is what we can reasonably expect. It's still pretty nice to be able to program the synth from entirely within a DAW project. |
Rich says in the Video that when you save the project in your DAW, and come back to it, the kronos will be reset back to where you left off. That sounds more like the Access Virus TI integration to me.
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EnjoyRC Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 746 Location: John 3:16
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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robinkle wrote: | sounds more like the Access Virus TI integration to me.
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My thoughts exactly. _________________
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robinkle Senior Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 382 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Rich F demo the Kronos at Novamusik |
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kandarv wrote: | New video, with a very detailed demo of the Kronos with Rich F.
This one really makes me wonder, Should I skip Nord Wave and go directly to the Kronos? Though choices and I can't justify both. I'm getting the Tempest too, so that's a lot money, to me at least, on music gear. |
I think Nord Wave is a good addition to existing gear. It's not a standalone workhorse like Kronos. My bet is that you get more bang for the buck with Kronos actually. But I had a Nord Wave, and it's incredible. It can produce a huge variety of sounds. It's 3 operator FM capabilties are massive and simple to use, and you can use PCM samples in there like you can with Kronos.
Personally I sold all my gear to finance a Kronos. After that I will build my studio around Kronos with gear that can be a good addition. Like an Analog Modular synth, microphone and drum pads/Tempest. I'm actually building my own Studio Desk that will fit perfectly for a Kronos on a drawer, so I can push it under the desk, when I'm not doing music.
Sharing my plans my help you decide maby. |
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BillW Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 933 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Rich, I hope you left that Kronos behind so they can ship it to me!!! _________________ Korg Kronos 61 (2); Kurzweil PC4; Casio Privia PX-350m; Macbook Pro |
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Lando Full Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 100 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Really great demo, thanks for posting it!
Kronos sounds absolutely amazing, release it allready!! |
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KapnKrunch Junior Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 88
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: RTAS too? |
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Great video.
I noted with interest Rich's comments about the DAW plug-in editor (at 14:09), where he mentioned VST and Audio Units compatibility.
What Rich didn't mention was RTAS compatibility. Was this just an oversight, or will Pro Tools users be left in the cold? |
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Sharp Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 18197 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Excellent video...!!!
Well done Richard. Impressive work as always.
Regards
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kandarv
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Posts: 35
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Rich F demo the Kronos at Novamusik |
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robinkle wrote: | kandarv wrote: | New video, with a very detailed demo of the Kronos with Rich F.
This one really makes me wonder, Should I skip Nord Wave and go directly to the Kronos? Though choices and I can't justify both. I'm getting the Tempest too, so that's a lot money, to me at least, on music gear. |
I think Nord Wave is a good addition to existing gear. It's not a standalone workhorse like Kronos. My bet is that you get more bang for the buck with Kronos actually. But I had a Nord Wave, and it's incredible. It can produce a huge variety of sounds. It's 3 operator FM capabilties are massive and simple to use, and you can use PCM samples in there like you can with Kronos.
Personally I sold all my gear to finance a Kronos. After that I will build my studio around Kronos with gear that can be a good addition. Like an Analog Modular synth, microphone and drum pads/Tempest. I'm actually building my own Studio Desk that will fit perfectly for a Kronos on a drawer, so I can push it under the desk, when I'm not doing music.
Sharing my plans my help you decide maby. |
Thanks for sharing your plan robinkle. I'm not sure about making Kronos the center of my music studio. If the onboard sequencer is similar to the one on the M50 definetly is not going to happen. The M50 sequencer and me, well to put it this way, we're not friends anymore, in fact, we're not speaking to each other now.
About the Nord Wave, I've been drooling about it since the first time I saw it, wanted the Nord Lead 3 before but with the Wave's sample capabilities and the Nord Sample Library available, I changed my mind. The Nord Wave is a very compaq and flexible unit. A single nice tool for a single task.
About the Tempest, well this could be my first drum machine, it's analog and Roger Linn was involved and is also a sequencer, etc. Has to be a great machine.
Rich F's demo makes me wonder, nevertheless, about the Kronos. It looks like a powerful machine, but it tries to cover a lot of ground. _________________ Gear: Motif XS6, Ultranova & Korg M50-73
Looking for: Nord Wave, Tetr4 & Virus Ti2 |
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Bertotti Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Posts: 3384 Location: Middle of nowhere
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:25 am Post subject: |
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I like the plans Kronos center nord second. I like the tempest but prefer the more tactile way of the Korg wave drum. Korg pay attention here, the WD needs midi and more knobs for control instead of the menu driven way to set parameters like the tempest has! I can't even imagine how much fun I could have if I could midi a couple wavedrums to a Kronos! I would never leave my music room!
And back on topic that is a great vid! Thanks for it! |
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