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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: Kronos Optical In/Out ? |
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Planing for the Kronos arrival, I was thinking about using the S/PDIF optical connection.
I know that I will be using the out to my interface (Ensemble) and was wondering if or why I would also use the optical back into the Kronos.
I was hoping someone might shed some light on how this could be used and what for? (The return signal) Thanks. _________________ Lou |
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Kevin Nolan Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 2524 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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1. The Kronos has an excellent Vocoder. Mike Conway has some exquisite demos of vocoding voice with onboard HD-1 Choir samples making the OASYS (Kronos) sound like a Choir. Not quite Roland's Vocal Design but never the less, incredibly good. So - you could feed in a mic. from your mixer/interface and through optical into the Kronos.
2. Many synth engines including MS20EX, STR-1 and MOD- accept external audio input, from mics or other synthesizers or DAW audio tracks. So again, optical in takes care of that.
3. Using Kronos's onboard effects on external singnals.
4. When composing on the Kronos sequencer, you can record other instruments / voice onto Kronos HD Audio Tracks.
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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Kevin Nolan wrote: | 1. The Kronos has an excellent Vocoder. Mike Conway has some exquisite demos of vocoding voice with onboard HD-1 Choir samples making the OASYS (Kronos) sound like a Choir.
So - you could feed in a mic. from your mixer/interface and through optical into the Kronos. |
So, for instance, in my daw, I could select the output of my mic to the optical out and this would be received at Kronos optical in? Is that correct?
Quote: | 4. When composing on the Kronos sequencer, you can record other instruments / voice onto Kronos HD Audio Tracks. |
Does this also mean I could run a plug, like say Omnisphere out the spdif and into the Kronos HD Audio?
Thanks Kevin! _________________ Lou |
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DaveBoulden Senior Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 314 Location: Kent, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Kevin Nolan wrote: | Mike Conway has some exquisite demos of vocoding voice with onboard HD-1 Choir samples making the OASYS (Kronos) sound like a Choir. Not quite Roland's Vocal Design but never the less, incredibly good. |
Got a link? |
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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:42 am Post subject: |
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DaveBoulden wrote: | Kevin Nolan wrote: | Mike Conway has some exquisite demos of vocoding voice with onboard HD-1 Choir samples making the OASYS (Kronos) sound like a Choir. Not quite Roland's Vocal Design but never the less, incredibly good. |
Got a link? |
Vocoder
More Vocoding _________________ Lou |
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DaveBoulden Senior Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 314 Location: Kent, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Lou. |
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Slovenec Full Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 170
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:07 am Post subject: |
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The SPDIF I/O means that you can use your choice of high quality external preamp to feed signals into the Kronos' HDR without and sound degradation. My Joe Meek Twin Q (which has both optical and coaxial SPDIF outs) would be perfect for use with the Kronos and there are plenty of other options out there. _________________ MIDITEK MUSIC PRODUCTION RECORDING & TUITION- albums, demos, jingles. Recording, arranging & mixing. |
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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Slovenec wrote: | The SPDIF I/O means that you can use your choice of high quality external preamp to feed signals into the Kronos' HDR without and sound degradation. My Joe Meek Twin Q (which has both optical and coaxial SPDIF outs) would be perfect for use with the Kronos and there are plenty of other options out there. |
Nice channel strip. I was just noticing that it has all of the available outs but there are no AES or S/PDIF ins?
I don't think you can feed signal back into the Kronos with it? _________________ Lou |
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theshinenz Full Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 240
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: |
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On a similar topic, is there a cable that can connect spdif optical to to slink optical? I wanted to connect my kurzwiel pc3 to the kronos but retain he option of using the analog ins for a vocoding if poss, and want to avoid a conversion box in between, if not I guess i'll have to ditch the vocoding live.
Cheers.
Scott |
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: |
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theshinenz wrote: | On a similar topic, is there a cable that can connect spdif optical to to slink optical? I wanted to connect my kurzwiel pc3 to the kronos but retain he option of using the analog ins for a vocoding if poss, and want to avoid a conversion box in between, if not I guess i'll have to ditch the vocoding live.
Cheers.
Scott |
SPDIF and TOSLINK are two completely different formats for the data stream. So you can't simply 'adapt' the physical connections. As is usually the case, the connections are different for a reason. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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There are boxes that will convert from SPDIF to lightpipe (Behringer do one although it may defeat the clarity part of the exercise if you used one!)
Reason being that you're going from electrical signal to optical signal..... _________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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ScoobyDoo555 wrote: | There are boxes that will convert from SPDIF to lightpipe (Behringer do one although it may defeat the clarity part of the exercise if you used one!)
Reason being that you're going from electrical signal to optical signal..... |
Both are digital so there should be no degradation of the signal. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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In theory, a 1 & 0 are just that: lovely sentiment, but it IS Behringer (without slagging it off! ! ) - I've got one at college where I teach...... it ain't brilliant. _________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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RKfan Senior Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 402 Location: Cambridge, England
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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On a related subject, I have a question.
If I use the USB port to transfer MIDI/audio etc between the Kronos and a PC are the midi interfaces still working?
This would be so I can chain the K to my other keyboard without using two USBs and probably confusing my DAW. |
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EnjoyRC Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 746 Location: John 3:16
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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RKfan wrote: | On a related subject, I have a question.
If I use the USB port to transfer MIDI/audio etc between the Kronos and a PC are the midi interfaces still working?
This would be so I can chain the K to my other keyboard without using two USBs and probably confusing my DAW. |
In most keyboards that support MIDI via USB, the physical MIDI ports are a SECOND set of MIDI ports. Visible via the MIDI out of your DAW. You get 2 complete sets of MIDI IO. _________________
Korg (Kronos 88, RK-100S 2), Behringer DeepMind 12, Roland (GAIA, A-800-Pro) |
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