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Rosen Sound · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: Some MOSS technology?

Found this pic over at kronoshaven.com (from the guys who brought you.. you guessed it... tritonhaven.com)
http://www.kronoshaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IMG_0173.jpg
Notice it has a SONDIUS sticker on it.. same guys who made the MOSS board for the trinity and triton... perhaps they helped korg do the modeling engines?

just some random speculation..
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cello · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:43 am Post subject:

You could be right as the same logo is printed on the OASYS (but not on the back, is on the control surface).
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Rosen Sound · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:45 am Post subject:

II just got a triton extreme in my shop last week that has a sonidus XG printed on the triton ont he right side of the CS.... very strange.. never seen it before...
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DaveBoulden · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:55 am Post subject:

Sondius is/was a commercial entity created by Stanford University to exploit the research work and patents they established in physical modelling as a form of synthesis. Yamaha were heavily involved with them and jointly licensed some of the technolgies created. Their patents cover a lot of the physical modelling area so Korg will have most likely licensed the technology to get a head-start in terms of the code and also be sure they're not infringing any patents. It would have almost certainly been the most pragmatic approach to realising the MOD-7 EXi and the predecessor Korg technologies.

BasariStudios · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject:

As i know off Korg had nothing to do with MOSS, it was Sondius and of course Yamaha...as the Yammy logo was there but not Korg's.
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X-Trade · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:54 pm Post subject:

MOSS was still Korg's creation and programming and hardware. Just the methods and principles are based upon research conducted at Stanford and have to be licensed through Sonidus or something along those lines.
MOSS certainly was a work of Korg and we've had that much confirmed before.
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EXer · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject:

That's nothing new. Prophecy, Z1, MOSS, Oasys PCI, OASYS, they all come from a Stanford Sondius background.

danatkorg · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:58 am Post subject:

Quoting from an earlier response to similar questions:

Stanford's CCRMA holds patents for aspects of waveguide synthesis technology. Korg holds a sublicense for these patents under Yamaha's Sondius-XG.

The patents in question apply specifically to some basic mechanisms of the waveguide synthesis method. Korg's proprietary and independently developed physical models of wind, brass, vocal, and plucked string instruments (as in the Trinity/Triton MOSS, OASYS PCI, and the new STR-1 plucked string model for the OASYS) use these mechanisms as *parts* of these algorithms, so we need to license the associated patents.

Hope this helps,

Dan
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