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michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:32 am Post subject: AMS Sources

There are a lot of parameters that can be changed by controllers in a comb by AMS sourcesi. Like a lot of LFO settings and EG settings, however I miss the basic settings like Mute and Volume. Or do I miss something?
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michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the reply.

I guess I have to find out the CC messages belonging to the switches or faders to control them by pedals.
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michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject:

danatkorg · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject:

The problem is that CC7 or CC11 is sent as MIDI channel (via MIDI cable) and not by a pedal and you cannot set CC7 or CC11 on/off per timbre.
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danatkorg · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject:

Because I have a Behringer which has already 2 pedals and 10 switches and a 3th pedal is a bit overkill and also would be very far from the center.

Btw, The behringer supports2 (jack output) switches as direct inputs for the Kronos, but the Behringer does not have a (stereo jack) pedal output. I maye want to use these switches later for the slave keyboard (Triton Extreme).

Before I used to copy the needed programs, assign volume to the ribbon controller and set the ribbon controller as Behringer pedal and the ribbon can be set on/off per timbre.
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danatkorg · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject:

I'm going to experiment with it.

Thanks for the answer. I will let you (and others) know if/how I could get it work.
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michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject:

Setting: Korg Kronos (Midi channel 1) and Korg M50 (midi channel 2). M50 is via midi out connected to midi in of Behringer and Behringer midi out to midi in of Kronos. All sounds come from Kronos.

I tried a few things and these are my conclusions:

- Both CC7 and CC11 makes KR vary in volume, not M50 (keys played from M50).
- I can disable 'other CC messages' on the MIDI filter page per timbre, but since I also need portamento (also via a non standard CC) I cannot use this easily.

Solution:
- I program one Behringer pedal as ribbon and reprogram some programs where volume is needed to link ribbon to volume. The ribbon controller can be set on/off per timbre.
- Or I can use the non pedal way: just the buttons/sliders. With the 512 comments this also is not so much of a problem for switching, for fade in/out a pedal is much better.
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danatkorg · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:19 am Post subject:

Yes I just tried it and it works great. That means I can now very easy control the sounds from MIDI channel 1 (played on the Kronos). I used CC7 and set as you wrote the pedal also to CC7 and then you can use the MIDI filter settings per timbre.

What is not possible is to change the volume of MIDI channel 2 but I don't mind much about that ... I just swap the MIDI channels if needed.

And the clearity of the Kronos is so good I can hear the Behringer pedal is not really good calibrated. I added a pedal-volume controlled string and not pedal-volume controlled piano and I could hear an itsy bit of strings even when the pedal was down. But that can be fixed. I tried a gate effect, but the lowest gate setting is still too high.

Thanks Dan for all the help ... with this solution it's quite easy to make pedal-volume dependent combinations!
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