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MarPabl Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject: Different versions of RH3 for Kronos 88 |
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Today I've received my second Kronos. First thing I noticed is the keybed which feels different from my first Kronos. Also, there's even a different sticker on C8 which says "RH3 keybed from Japan" whereas my first Kronos just said "RH3".
Long story short, my first Kronos had serial number between 300-400 and a guy bought it from me on mid September. You all know how hard was to get a Kronos 88 those days (it's hard even now). Anyways, I tested everything on that Kronos (got it mid August) and everything worked perfect: keybed and the dial (I took much care after reading the posts about that). Even, now I'm sure that Kronos is still working perfectly (the guy hasn't call me )
But I feel differences between both. I feel the dial is more robust (or maybe I'm not that afraid as with the first Kronos) and the keybed feels better. I don't clearly remember the feel of the first Kronos, but I'm pretty sure it's not the same. This time, it was harder to take away the first two spacers on the keybed (lower notes)
Some lower notes make a little click when released: G2, A2, B2, A4 but until now, I haven't any cutoff notes problem. For every note, when I release them by totally taking away the finger, there will be a very little double bounce at the very top of the key's trajectory: this double bounce happens at the very end, when the key is vertically aligned with the rest of the keys. The double bounce is pretty small, less than 2 mm I'd say and I'm aware of it because I've been testing this Kronos and checking how the keybed works. You know, I'm somewhat nervous after reading the posts here
This new Kronos is on the 11xx series so I think it would be interesting to adjust the thread:
Kronos 88 and RH3 keyboard faulty
So we can also now which RH3 version do you have. I'm pretty sure there are different stickers (I hope there are also different versions) because I have the photos of my previous Kronos 88
I'll post on corresponding threads a few days later in order for me to test this Kronos for more time. _________________ Current gear: Access Virus TI2 Whiteout Keyboard (111/150), Access Virus TI2 Polar DarkStar Special Edition, Gibson Custom Lite 2013, Roland MV-8800 |
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Good observation.. so the other ones must have been made or assembled in China, Malaysia or ?? Regrdless of where it was made, if your lower notes click, then it sounds like you now have the same problem reported by Robbinhood?
From what I have read it looks like the keybed has 3 problems. Clicking problem, notes being cutoff and some kind of damper software problem. |
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macroenie Junior Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 67 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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This sounds interesting and promising. Still haven´t heard anything when my Kronos 88 will be available but following the forum made me sort of afraid of the build quality
So I will follow closely if other new owners will report the same "Made in Japan" sticker.
Thanks for posting.
Cheers
Jeroen _________________ One life, one chance |
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panrixx Senior Member
Joined: 13 May 2011 Posts: 448 Location: Tamar Valley, Cornwall, UK
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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My K88 is in the mid 600s and says "RH3 Keybed from Japan". Although I've tried to find any sort of problem with it I just can't - seems to be 100% fine. _________________ Rhodes 73 Mk1; Kronos 88; Synthex; Electribe EMX-1; Motif XS Rack; Yamaha DX7IIFD; Yamaha MM8; Roland Alpha Juno-2; Roland JV-2080; Tascam FW-1884. |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
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Kim Full Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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My Kronos serial number is 00308 and had the sticker RH3. Got a call from the Finnish importer. They asked Korg Sweden about the cut off notes, and got no specific answer. It seems like an isolated problem in Scandinavia.
Anyway, got a high recommendation to send it to repair, because the Finnish guy is supposed to be the best in his field. If nothing else works, he will exchange the whole keybed. I'd be interested to know, if I got this "Japan RH3" version instead |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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When I picked my Kronos up, my dealer said that the OS 1.5 update will sort out the glitches. I hadn't mentioned glitches to him. He just came out with it.
This is a big Korg dealership, so what I am saying is.........
Maybe, just maybe .'The OS update will sort out the glitches.'
Let's give them a chance at least. _________________ https://m.youtube.com/user/1967runningman |
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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K88 s/n 540.
RH3 made in Japan.
No problems. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
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Kim Full Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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runningman67 wrote: | When I picked my Kronos up, my dealer said that the OS 1.5 update will sort out the glitches. I hadn't mentioned glitches to him. He just came out with it.
This is a big Korg dealership, so what I am saying is.........
Maybe, just maybe .'The OS update will sort out the glitches.'
Let's give them a chance at least. |
Of course they deserve a fighting chance! That's very good news, if it turns out to be correct |
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PinkFloydDudi Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | K88 s/n 540.
RH3 made in Japan.
No problems. |
Forget my serial number, in the 400's...
"RH3" sticker. |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Think it'll be just a new sticker as the problem is probably software based and rumours of keybeds being built in Italy, Russia, Tripoli, the moon, has probably pi##ed them off .
Just a thought _________________ https://m.youtube.com/user/1967runningman |
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MarPabl Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 938 Location: MX
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Check this photo of the "RH3" sticker.
Check this photo of the "RH3 keybed from Japan" sticker.
BTW until now, I haven't experienced any problem with any of both keybeds, no matter with those little clicks on the new Kronos, but I'll keep testing and when ready, I'll post back to the thread with the issues.
I'll post back the new sticker later...
All of the guys who have reported on the thread with the issue, please remember to update your posts and tell us what's on the sticker.
Kronos 88 and RH3 keyboard faulty _________________ Current gear: Access Virus TI2 Whiteout Keyboard (111/150), Access Virus TI2 Polar DarkStar Special Edition, Gibson Custom Lite 2013, Roland MV-8800
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Jon Lord Senior Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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My guess is that they just have two batches of different stickers and the keybed is the same, that makes to most sense IMO. _________________ - Download & share Korg keyboard patches for free.
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MarPabl Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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PinkFloydDudi wrote: | Forget my serial number, in the 400's...
"RH3" sticker. |
And works ok? _________________ Current gear: Access Virus TI2 Whiteout Keyboard (111/150), Access Virus TI2 Polar DarkStar Special Edition, Gibson Custom Lite 2013, Roland MV-8800 |
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MarPabl Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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runningman67 wrote: | Think it'll be just a new sticker as the problem is probably software based and rumours of keybeds being built in Italy, Russia, Tripoli, the moon, has probably pi##ed them off .
Just a thought |
I'm not that confident this is a software problem. If this was the case, then every Kronos out there would suffer for this... Yes, you can adjust the software to reduce the issue, but this is certainly something related with hardware... Better for Korg if this can solved just with software... otherwise, then a recall may be needed. _________________ Current gear: Access Virus TI2 Whiteout Keyboard (111/150), Access Virus TI2 Polar DarkStar Special Edition, Gibson Custom Lite 2013, Roland MV-8800 |
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