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CTravaglini · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:46 am Post subject: Jamiroquai String fall

i know this sounds not unique to jamiroqui, but it has become a major part of their sound.

i am searching for a way to replicate (to whatever extent possible) the 70s disco string section fall/stab sound inn my kronos. I've searched a little on the internet to try and find information about this sound, but haven't had much luck. its incredibly noticeable in songs like little l in the chorus, or canned heat. (the canned heat one sounds quite a bit punchier)

I've tried taking a string sound, adjusting the decay to be quite short, and then altering the pitch eg to have the fall, but the initial strike is never strong enough to cut through the mix like the jamiroquai ones.

do you guys have any suggestions on something i could do to help this, or possible point me towards a sample library that already has this sound in it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hHSH9sJUEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4VlA_9OrI

narf · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:17 am Post subject:

I've made a program using a strings fall mixed in a combi for Just Dance. PM me your email and I'll send it to you
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narf · Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:59 pm Post subject:

Sorry this took a while...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pf1pwqj1efc80n4/String%20Drop.PCG

Program U-FF 000 Disco String Fall
Combi U-G 000 Just Dance- It's a split combi with EP on the left side and strings on the right. When played hard, string fall will be heard.

Download file
Transfer to USB
Connect USB to Kronos
Go to Disk Mode
Go to Drive Select and choose your USB
Copy the String Fall.pcg file to your Kronos SSD
Open the .pcg
Open Program Folder
Open U-FF folder
Load U-FF 000 Disco String Fall
Open Combi Folder
Open U-G folder
Load U-G 000 Just Dance
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narf · Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject:

To create the program, select a string sound and adjust pitch envelope attack settings. You can also set this up so that it responds to velocity intensity.
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CTravaglini · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:49 am Post subject:

the troubles not so much in getting the pitch to lower as it is in the attack of the note. the string samples in the kronos don't have strong attacks like many of the 70's disco string ensembles. the 01/w has a great strong sample which I've attempted to sample and use in the kronos. but i think to fully achieve this sound, you'd need to get the sample from an actual string section!!

I've made a patch up for little l using the 01/w sample. have a listen and see what you think

https://www.dropbox.com/s/emtl7ctcdbuxgvr/Little%20L.m4a

popmann · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:53 am Post subject:

Sample NI's Session Strings. It's an awful library for general use...but, it was MADE for "disco strings"--with both scoops and falls as part of every sound.

narf · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:19 am Post subject:

The Disco String Fall is just the pitch change itself. The combi has it mixed with Tremolo string for the attack sound.
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pfrocha · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: String fall

Rocnuts · Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Posts: 2

Great patch CTravaglini. Please share
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SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

The NI ones have a "Motown" mode that is perfect.

Stefpiano · Joined: 13 Jun 2014 Posts: 4

Here, disco strings with falls !
http://youtu.be/v8vaAwvnxAc

drdave2002 · Junior Member Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 96

Sounds great but these are for the Motif, is someone working on a Kronos version? or is there a soundset available already?
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kaptainkeyboard · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:15 am Post subject:

drdave2002 · Junior Member Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 96

YOU ARE A STAR !!!!

Awesome, can't wait to get out of work now!!
.... actually as i think about it, this makes me sad that i can't go now and play with my Kronos, you've ruined my day!!!

Only joking !!!

Thanks, really appreciate it.
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