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synthmanq · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 6

Hi, I'm looking for a pair of good (and budget?) monitors for my M3 for playing piano at home. I understand it is almost impossible to get proper bass, but anyway, what should I look for?

Sharp · Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:21 pm Post subject:

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synthmanq · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 6

Thanks, I'm specifically looking for a good piano sound from monitors. I have checked Krks, Yamahas etc in Music Center but they all sounded weak, specially on bass notes. I guess it will be difficult.

orpheus2006 · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:17 am Post subject:

billbaker · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject:

+1 @ orpheus2006,

You can use a common sub like that you'd find in a decent computer speaker system (i.e., 2.1 stereo speakers) to get the low end on your piano and the thud for drums and such. They're out there; used and new.

If you aren't strictly looking for audiophile monitoring you might even want to go with just an upscale computer speaker set - it's already matched for cross-over points and should be able to handle low to moderately loud volumes without too much distortion. A speaker at either end of your piano and a sub on the floor would give you enough separation for a stereo audio picture in a small space.

You want to look for a powered sub so there's no extra amp involved.

If you aren't headphone averse there are a lot of high end sets that have very good sound including low end response - also apartment friendly.
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ajay · Guest Joined: 16 Aug 2012 Posts: 6

billbaker · Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject:

Need a definition of "proper" monitor.

The detailed and industry standard studio monitors have been written up elsewhere. That you're looking at KRK and Yamaha studio monitors means that you've done your homework - and are willing to at least consider the bigger budget needed for these products. That's OK, provided that's the level you are really shooting for.

A $100-200 set of Altec (just as an example) computer speakers (2.1) would do for most computer applications - gaming, video, and listening to music for example - and sound way better than the dinky speakers in the computer itself, both from a volume and fidelity standpoint... and so would also be good for what is an essentially full range program coming from your M3 (esp. w/ drums &/or KARMA running).

I hit on this because I has looking for a system I could leave hooked up with my Emu Command Stations for editing purposes in a very small space. I had tried a couple of small combo amps I had that were less-than-satisfying from the standpoint of sound quality. There was no room for bigger amps. I finally hit on hooking up an old computer sound system I had lying around. This wasn't even remotely 1st tier stuff - I think I had spent maybe $40 at a best buy blow-out - but when I hooked it up it sounded surprisingly good, especially with the sub handing the low end demand.

Such systems tho' are not flat, not without coloration, and are certainly not optimal for mastering your recordings.

The advantage they do have is (1) they're less expensive, (2) the full range is covered (with sub) in stereo, (3) they're multi purpose in that they can be integrated into your computer/instrument/amp set-up pretty simply and (4) physical size means that they can be "in your face" (or more to the point "at your ears") rather than on the floor as keyboard amps would likely be.

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ajay · Guest Joined: 16 Aug 2012 Posts: 6

Thanks, I don't care about mastering, just good or pleasing piano and karma sounds.

I see Altec and Logitech have a range of products from cheap to expensive. Any particular model recommendation?

billbaker · Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject:

(Model) Not really, just budget what you can justify -- if you weren't going to be able to use it as a keyboard monitor would you feel you'd spent way too much for a computer system if it didn't work out? For me that number is around $100 to $150. That's the point that I'd wish I'd shelled out for a set of Dr. Dre Beats, if only for the cool factor as I listened to my iPod.

The more you spend the higher the quality you get, if only considered from speaker diameter and magnet weight (which effect frequency range and volume) - when you hit the point that there's actually a tweeter/woofer combo in the upper speaker you'll be hitting the better sounding range.

One final thought, and that's how you're going to make the connection -- the speakers I used had a 1/8" stereo mini plug to get signal from a sound card. I just stuck on a decent RTS 1/4" adapter and jacked into the headphone output. Voila!

Try to pay attention to ensure that the speaker/computer connection is one that you can easily adapt to the M3 since it is extremely unlikely to be a 1/4" phone plug; mini to phone is easy but you can't find adapters that will allow you to use bare wire (hi-fi) or non-phone/phono plugs (like a proprietary DIN or USB) nearly as easily.

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bfburkejr · Joined: 28 May 2011 Posts: 25 Location: Rochester, NY

Try a pair of Samson Resolv A8's they sound great for the $ and have decent bass down to 40 Hz or so. Only way to do better for the $ is make your own and even then you would be hard pressed to make a pair of good sounding powered nearfields with 8" woofers for what the SAmson's Cost. If I remember correctly mine cost arond $300-$400 for the pair. Over 100 watts amplification per speaker. Silk dome os easy on the ears for nearfield use.