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cyyap95



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But headphones might have some problem like

erm overheat...
damage ear
easy get tire


isn't ?
anyway i will go to a headphone shop next week
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyyap95 wrote:
But headphones might have some problem like

erm overheat...
damage ear
easy get tire


isn't ?
anyway i will go to a headphone shop next week

Just get a half open headphone system, that way you won't get tired ears, i'm using a headphone most of the time and never experience the problems you mention above Smile

i'm using the sennheiser 650 HD by the way, but that's a really expensive one, there are much cheaper solutions if you are on a budget Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also two of those problem apply to monitors, you can damage your ears easily and fatigue them with speakers/monitors
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did some research again.. found that PA speaker isn't what i want
and a pair of Behringer 208D cost me $650 here..... bloodsucker country

maybe i will look into studio monitors or if can't afford just go with hp
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The krk stuff isn't terrible!

But again your room will be pretty unforgiving for monitors
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking forward to powered monitors
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Headphones i considering...


AKG K240 MKII(still not understand difference between studio edition)
Beyerdynamic DT880(Comfort , neutral ?)
Shure SRH840 (Closed back, shy bass?)
ATH-M50(maybe not for my usage... for mixing ?)
KRK KNS 8400(no idea...)
AKG K500 (is this better than k240 mk2 a lot ? )


So the question are... do i need headphone amp for kronos?
And which one suit kronos?
My main usage of kronos is making pop song... genre are not heavy bass
maybe someone called it fantasy dream type song ?like japan song

for powered monitor... i have no idea. maybe i will get it when i got enough or higher budget


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Headphone impedance is important if you're shopping in the studio segment. The Kronos has relatively low output impedance (like 35Ohms or something), if you get headphones with too high impedance the volume will be too low to work with. In that case you might neexmd a headphone amp.

That said, my DT990s are 250Ohms and are plenty loud. But you'll also find headphones with 500Ohms or even higher, so be sure to check that out.

And again, are you using the Kronos for personal enjoyment only? You might be pretty happy with small entry level monitors with a sub in that case. The reason people are objecting to it is because your small untreated (acoustically) room will cause some irregularities especially in the low frequencies, which would make it hard to mix anything to a professional standard. It'd still be a enjoyable to play though.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are working solely in your studio all you need are a decent pair of headphones and studio monitors.
Amp and PA speakers are overkill and not at all necessary for home studio environment unless you are playing out.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Lou is right again. My choices are some Ultrasones, Yamaha studio monitors and a Traynor keyboard amp. The Traynor is great, costs as much as my monitors and headphones put together. However, I love the monitors for the stuff in the afternoons and at night I generally use the headphones. Good luck. Smile Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One word- headphones!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz I just bought AKG K550

ok everything is fine... just.. this is not for enjoy..
bass is weaker than other headphone i tested...

but i personally think that this is the 2nd comfort after beyer
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DT990s are pretty strong on bass. Not the hyped mid lows from regular consumer headphones but the real lows.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used AKG 271's for years (not switched to the MkII yet). Very comfortable during prolonged mixing sessions.

Like all monitors and headphones, take your time getting used to the sound you hear, you'll soon learn to compensate for any inaccuracies - I used to change my headphones every year, Sony, Sennheiser etc... just stick to a brand/model you like the sound of, and your mixes will be consistent.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prolonged use of headphones will damage your hearing! so please take that into consideration.

Another issue is that headphones are not very good for mix monitoring, if you'd like to record stuff and distribute it.

Its not an issue of how good the headphones are, but sevarl Psycoacoustic issues with how your ears translate sound from speakers VS how you hear from headphones.

Just take care with the sound levels when using earphones, you want to enjoy music for a long time.
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