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Martosax87
Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Posts: 26
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:48 pm Post subject: Problem with Expression controller in Style editing |
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Hello everyone. First I want to apologize for my poor english, it's not my mother tongue.
Now at the problem: I converted PSR styles and loaded them in to the Pa900. Well done, but the machine puts the primary CC11 value at the end of the tracks. And when some Intro has few CC11 at the end (127, 124, 121, 118, 115...61, 58, 55...) for decrescendo, Pa900 puts again CC11 with value 127 after the last one. For example 65, 62, 59, 56 and 127. I delete this last controller or change its value and save the style, but every time my Pa900 inserts the primary controller at the end of the track.
Please, help if someone has resolved this problem. I'm sure that I'm not first user with this problem. |
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Nemik Approved Merchant
Joined: 27 Jan 2014 Posts: 1725 Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:17 am Post subject: |
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try to export this to midi file and look into on Pc, something weird is there, is hard to tell what.
I'm doing changing value in my track on Pa600 on daily basic, almost every style I making and never had this issue .
If you load this midi to midi editor you can see, maybe something stay wrong after converting from PSR. _________________ Nemik
Korg Kronos2-61, Korg Pa600, Novation UltraNova, Akai Professional MPK49, Akai Professional MPK225 , Alesis QX-49, APC25 Keys, Launchpad MK2, Korg nanoPad2
MOTU Midi Express XT, FCB1010 with UnO, Behringer X2222 USB, TASCAM Model 24 Mixer, Presonus AudioBox96, M-Track Plus
Fl Studio 21, Ableton Live 10 Suite.
Korg Pa5x Sounds at Performers Heaven |
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Thoraldus Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2010 Posts: 2061 Location: Rocky Mountains - SE IDaho
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Problem with Expression controller in Style editing |
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Martosax87 wrote: | Hello everyone. First I want to apologize for my poor english, it's not my mother tongue.
Now at the problem: I converted PSR styles and loaded them in to the Pa900. Well done, but the machine puts the primary CC11 value at the end of the tracks. And when some Intro has few CC11 at the end (127, 124, 121, 118, 115...61, 58, 55...) for decrescendo, Pa900 puts again CC11 with value 127 after the last one. For example 65, 62, 59, 56 and 127. I delete this last controller or change its value and save the style, but every time my Pa900 inserts the primary controller at the end of the track.
Please, help if someone has resolved this problem. I'm sure that I'm not first user with this problem. |
From page 157 of the user manual...
"• Key/Chord, Chord Table, Expression, and any other Style Variation parameter, must be manually programmed in the relevant Style Record pages.
• The starting Tempo, and each track’s Volume, must be programmed as Style Settings data, and then saved in the Style Settings."
You'll probably want to turn on Initialize when you import the midi. _________________ ”It’s easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself.”
Johann Sebastian Bach
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Rick Stirling - Retired Electrical Engineer - Erstwhile Photographer
Korg Kronos2, Casio MZ-X500, PA600, AKAI MPD32, M-Audio Oxygen 25, ZOOM H6, Cakewalk Sonar |
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Martosax87
Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Posts: 26
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I edit the styles in Style Rec and controllers in Event Edit, but every time it puts unwanted controller at the end. |
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BillyHank Senior Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2013 Posts: 412
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Check to see if there is a reset all controllers command in the event list. |
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Martosax87
Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Posts: 26
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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There is no reset controllers at the ends. |
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Nemik Approved Merchant
Joined: 27 Jan 2014 Posts: 1725 Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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can you go to edit even of track, filter everything except control and post here exactly what is there?
If we see, then we can help you better.
type all.
like:
Position Type Value1 Value2
M:001.01.000 Ctrl 10 64 _________________ Nemik
Korg Kronos2-61, Korg Pa600, Novation UltraNova, Akai Professional MPK49, Akai Professional MPK225 , Alesis QX-49, APC25 Keys, Launchpad MK2, Korg nanoPad2
MOTU Midi Express XT, FCB1010 with UnO, Behringer X2222 USB, TASCAM Model 24 Mixer, Presonus AudioBox96, M-Track Plus
Fl Studio 21, Ableton Live 10 Suite.
Korg Pa5x Sounds at Performers Heaven |
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Sam CA Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 3990 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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All controllers are reset at the end. It's not just expression....It's panning and everything else if I remember correctly. To know for sure ,export a factory style and look at it in an external sequencer.
Are you trying to do a Decrescendo for an ending or something? _________________ Sam
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Martosax87
Joined: 10 Mar 2014 Posts: 26
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Few hours later I'll try to upload pics from Event editor. If I can't, I'll write what exactly is there.
Thanks for your help, guys. |
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PraiseTheLord Senior Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 427 Location: N Fort Myers, FL, USA
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Martosax87
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the link. Yes, my problem is exactly the same. I think that I found a solution - just shorten the notes of the endings. |
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