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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject: In the name of my Master. Music done in love. Reply with quote

In the name of my Master.
Music done in love.
I do see many places for improvements in this music. But if speaking about this mixing in current state i prefer this mixing to those so called super stars records and golden records. They are too laud, little to no dynamic and unnatural sounding records and so on.

It wil be tried to move quality standarts as higher as possible awry new song and then when will be reached a certain standrt of quality maybe all previus songs will be redone to this standard or better.

Youtube link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9NxbUaDDGYahNtFLH8h_te91BsW4eMrQ


All songs can be downloaded in studio quality here: https://yadi.sk/d/kZuLVE7xp7fGv
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Because of limitations on place where i put music you cannot load files large then 10 Gb so that's why those songs which are over 10 Gbs are splited and they are in their own folders.


Some songs on Youtube has English captains.

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In order to get the best sound make sure your master sample rate of your audio playback device matches native sample rate of played sound source. In this case those songs are at 192Khz. So you can get bit perfect audio(if other requirements are followed).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the 1 first song in the list (Үьтοтаκапρавꙗʌюбοвь; ) in the curent stage where is the laudest part of the song on vocal i used EQ and Slate Digital Revival because with out it vocal can not be heared because music is too wide. But now vocal sounds ugly and unatural.
Lowering music is not an option because it must be not lauder and not quiter then it is, so i had to bump up volume of vocal and use eq on it and Slate Digital Revival.
But this is not how it must to be. I need to think how to fix that. But probably i will work on a fwe new songs then come back to this one later.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have fixed that problem. I reedited the song a little bit and rerecorded vocal in that problematic part of the song. I moved vocal in the beggining befor that laudest part happen and now i do not have that problems i was speaking before.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: I do my own music from heart. Reply with quote

Hi, you may wish to master or normalize your tracks before uploading. Tried to take a quick listen, but even with the Youtube volume at max and my soundcard gain up full, along with a further pre-amp boost, I could still barely hear anything. A very few brief peaks showed around -25dB, the rest averaging -37dB and considerably lower.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: I do my own music from heart. Reply with quote

Timo wrote:
Hi, you may wish to master or normalize your tracks before uploading. Tried to take a quick listen, but even with the Youtube volume at max and my soundcard gain up full, along with a further pre-amp boost, I could still barely hear anything. A very few brief peaks showed around -25dB, the rest averaging -37dB and considerably lower.

Thank u for suggestion. But it is there for porpouse. After listening to very laud music for years it might look that my music is very quite. But i selected that volume for musical reasons. But be aware that the loudest sound i can have is 0db on peak. Curently no of my music has it. So my music cab be pretty wide in dynamic range..
My music is mixed for people with:
1) Propertly set up audio system.
2) Good hearing. ( children are welcome, dolphins or bets are even more welcome Very Happy lol )
3) Quite imviroments.
For other cases i did not tested my music yet.
4) Do not need a milion dollars audio system but atlist some decent headphones or decent speakers with sub is required.

But here what issues might be.

1) U audio sysem is not corectly set. ( how to do it i tell later.)
2) U hearing is very fatigued because of listening to laud music. ( give a rest to ur ears for a day and do not listen music loudly for no reasons.)
3) Quite emviroment. ( try if possible to remove all noises out of ur room)
4) My music is kind of quite but does not need to be laud for musical reasons and u can hear it pretty well if awrything is set correctly.
5) Listen in good headpones or speakers with sub. Laptop speakers or iPad won't do.

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How ever if u do not want to bother how to set up propertly system, how to meainteing ur own hearing and prepear ur room for listening audio u can download my music and do what u want. My music is free so no copyrights or other legal issues. But be aware that awrything u do with my music which was not originaly intended by the author (me) is up to ur hazard.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: I do my own music from heart. Reply with quote

Timo wrote:
Hi, you may wish to master or normalize your tracks before uploading. Tried to take a quick listen, but even with the Youtube volume at max and my soundcard gain up full, along with a further pre-amp boost, I could still barely hear anything. A very few brief peaks showed around -25dB, the rest averaging -37dB and considerably lower.



Exactly what he said! Sorry but it's way too quiet.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I gave up. I live 20 miles outside of town it is 2230 here and the only noise is the wind outside and even with my volume up all the way I can barely here your music. You really need to record a bit higher if someone can not hear it on a normal system even if the crank their set your tunes won't get any play time. I don't think you would loose any dynamic range recording 10-15 db higher then you are now.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using a Motu Traveler with active monitors and/or closed-back studio headphones in a very quiet room. All other audio, from a whole variety of different sources, also including the rest of Youtube, works fine. Everything is calibrated.

If your audio is peaking at -25dB, then the problem is clearly your end, as you're actually decreasing your available bandwidth by the same amount (-25dB), not making it wider as you believe.

You may have the best signal path in the world, but others don't. You're kinda cutting your nose off to spite your face if no-one else can hear your work.

I could record music that peaks at -50dB. Would it make it sound any better? Hell, no! If yours or someone else's noise floor is -90dB and the audio is peaking at -50dB then you'd only be giving yourself a working range of 40dB to work with the audio, as opposed to the full 90dB range that's available to you.

0dB (maximum level), which yours is nowhere near, is used as a reference point so everyone can calibrate their audio levels accordingly, otherwise if you're using arbitrary levels everyone would need a soundcard or pre-amp with near infinite levels of gain without increasing electrical or background noise, which is absolutely technically impossible on multiple levels.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys. It is not like i am a bad person who wants to make ur life harder for no reasons. Currently i do not have time to test my music on all systems.

I did a mix for
1)high quality audio system.
2) Propertly set audio system.
3) Good hearing.
4) Quite listening imveroment.

My main foxus always will be to make music for this case and i am not going to make balance between this and other cases.

How ever i think it would be nice to make alternative mixes for other cases how ever right now i am alone and i cannot do awry thing instantly so i want to focus on other work right now.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timo wrote:
I'm using a Motu Traveler with active monitors and/or closed-back studio headphones in a very quiet room. All other audio, from a whole variety of different sources, also including the rest of Youtube, works fine. Everything is calibrated.

If your audio is peaking at -25dB, then the problem is clearly your end, as you're actually decreasing your available bandwidth by the same amount (-25dB), not making it wider as you believe.

You may have the best signal path in the world, but others don't. You're kinda cutting your nose off to spite your face if no-one else can hear your work.

I could record music that peaks at -50dB. Would it make it sound any better? Hell, no! If yours or someone else's noise floor is -90dB and the audio is peaking at -50dB then you'd only be giving yourself a working range of 40dB to work with the audio, as opposed to the full 90dB range that's available to you.

0dB (maximum level), which yours is nowhere near, is used as a reference point so everyone can calibrate their audio levels accordingly, otherwise if you're using arbitrary levels everyone would need a soundcard or pre-amp with near infinite levels of gain without increasing electrical or background noise, which is absolutely technically impossible on multiple levels.


My maximus laudness in 0db on peak. But i howerer my music does not reach that laudness right now for musical resons.

I think with out explaning how i calibrate my system it is very hard to tell why i desided to make my song at that levels.
But in short end users do not select 0 db, it must be the same in all systems( ideally). So as result the laudness of song will be selected not by a consumer but by those who make music because consumer usualy have no idea at what level should be 0db on peak so he cranks awrything to laud or to quite and because of that is the reason of laudness wars because nobody knows at what 0db on peak consumer will listen and u cannot make good and dinamic mix for all cases. So they decided that it will have no dynamic but atlist in will sound the same in all cases.

So in ur case if u cannot hear my music at all it might be because ur 0db on Peak is set to low. Make it higher by angusting analog volum on ur spekers or if u audio interface has Analog volume. Do not do it digitaly because u will lose Bits resolution.

Of couse the the problem will be that most consumer media is between -1dB and -10 dB on peak so awrything will screem if u listen buyond my music. But this is not my faul but it because most media is mixed with little or no dynamic and they put their sound on max. So in this case i always keep my sound knob of main level at about -50dB. I have analog pot on Lynx Hilo so i do not lose resolution, but if u have like RME or other audio interfaces they use digital pod and u will lose some resolution of audio. But i am not shure if u can notice that drop of resolution.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys maby tomorow i will explain how i set my audio system so u see and agree or disagree with my approach.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what if someone wants to listen to your music on their ipad or iPhone? It's just not possible to get the kind of levels required to listen to your music.

What you're saying is that no one else knows how to set their audio levels apart from you? If everyone is saying it is too quiet then perhaps it's time to address the issue. You can't expect people to change their audio settings just to listen to your music. What then happens when it stops playing your song and goes on to another song? They burst an ear drum because the other song is 50db louder than yours.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pepperpotty wrote:
So what if someone wants to listen to your music on their ipad or iPhone? It's just not possible to get the kind of levels required to listen to your music.

What you're saying is that no one else knows how to set their audio levels apart from you? If everyone is saying it is too quiet then perhaps it's time to address the issue. You can't expect people to change their audio settings just to listen to your music. What then happens when it stops playing your song and goes on to another song? They burst an ear drum because the other song is 50db louder than yours.


I cannot make it sound equalily good an all possible sound systems. There are 3 ways:
1) Make it sound best possible only on high quality propertly set audio system in quait emviroment and person has good hearing.
2) Make it sound best possible on low quality systems not propertly set up audio systems with compromised hearing.
3) make compromise between second and first. ( but because the difference is so wide between 1 and 2 u have to select only one because if u select a middle point in will be bad on 1 and on 2 case.

In my cases i do not want to make compromises even in the smallest amount and suternly i am making my music for the first case.

How ever maby in future i could make separate mixes for 2 cases. Or maby i will ask sombody else to do that ugly mixes because i have hard time in listen to that over blowed mixes like are made today because they are to laud and do not utilize the full range of human hearing.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am doing right now a tutorial how to set up audio system and actualy i found flow in it. U indeed need to make my songs 15 dB more.
Don't u Audio interface has an option to increes digitaly of playback chanell ( not master volume) by 15dB more?
I used to have RME Fireface and Motu, and mAudio and if i am not wrong they all have possibility to increes play back volume( not master volume).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now all my songs 15 dB more. Very Happy
Have a nice listening!
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