New version of farmpad - os x hack for padKontrol

[S4racen]

You'll be Moldovering it next and giving it legs so it can walk to gigs on it's own!

Cheers
D

[JaJu]

Hi S4racen – I don't know how to quote properly with names and all, but these are answers to your questions from earlier (although you probably figured them out yourself by now).

Does the Instantsampler do it immediately so i can use it when just one track is playing (the input will be from a CDJ routed into Ableton...?)

You need to capture some audio first by sending a midi note, so the answer is no I guess

so whats the cpu drain?

Dunno

[S4racen]

I suppose a constant cache on the audio would be a drain anyway....

Just a thought flycycle, how about a shift function so that while pressed you can fire a different message (as per config) per button or switch, i know this can be done with scenes but it would be dead quick, ive got this feature on my Xone 1d's with a Bomes Script and it's ace....

Cheers
D

[plosive]

any word on the planned windows version? need a beta tester?

[S4racen]

It's all working how i want it now, especially as the bug of which channel farmpad was sending on has gone....

How is the remote supposed to work though? Will it only work on certain trigger types? i've got a pair of pads grouped, one is a switch the other a retrigger, the retrigger is mapped to play whilst the switch is mapped to off...

This way i can launch with one repeatedly and stop with the other with the pads lights showing the status.... However if a clip ends then the pad is still lit on the retrigger to signify it's playing, does remote turn it off ?

Cheers
D

[flycycle]

Hi, sorry it's been a while - I've upped a new version of farmpad (1.2) which has some new stuff for the melody makers..

- Noteshift option - can be used for octave up/down style behaviour.
- Velocity curves - pads can be set to a softer or harder response than default, or have a fixed velocity.
- Program change - makes a pad send a midi program change message.
- Sustain mode.

The pad_notes.txt example config file shows how to use the new features.

[flycycle]

However if a clip ends then the pad is still lit on the retrigger to signify it's playing, does remote turn it off ?

It should do.. If you have trouble with it let me know.

any word on the planned windows version? need a beta tester?

It's in the works, but will be a while before it's finished yet. The main problem is that there isn't a straightforward way of creating a virtual midi device in windows that I know about. I might end up using something like hubis loopback to get it working, but ideally I'll come up with something a bit easier to use.
Checked out some of your music btw, really nice stuff!

how about a shift function so that while pressed you can fire a different message (as per config) per button or switch

Yeah that'd be useful - I think what I'd do is have a button that selects a specific scene as you're pressing it, then goes back to the scene you were on when you let go. That'd let you do something like have a master fx scene that you can quickly access from any other scene, which would be sweet

Now I just need to find out if it's possible to change the LEDs to green one's to match my Killamix

Let me know if you find anything out - I'd pay good dollar for a pK with blue LEDs

[sawatzki]

Hi flycycle,

Thank you so much for this awesome piece of software!!
I've been tweaking around for hours now, and the possibilities seem endless!

I'm working on a big config file for myself - I'll be glad to post it once it's somewhere near finished...

While fiddling around, two things come to my mind:

1. The LED segment display:
- How can I address the three points in the display?
- when scrolling, is there a way to influence the scrolling speed exactly?
(I was thinking of a visual metronome in the display...)
(Imagine if you could address the Display by MIDI while in active mode!!)


2. Shift-functions / sub-scenes
-I was playing excessively with doc holiday's step sequencer and need more steps. Would it be possible to make a function that combines the functionality of groups and scenes - e.g. when I hold (or toggle) a predefined switch, the pads section (or any predefined group of triggers) switches to a sub-scene?

I was thinking this way:
Group the switches [scene],[message],[fixed vel.]and [prog chng],
so they can toggle between sub-scenes of the pad section:
[scene] = pads 1-16 (sub-scene1-1)
[message] = pads 17-32 (sub-scene1-2)
[fixed vel.] = pads 33 - 48 (sub-scene1-3)
[prg chng] = pads 49 - 64 (sub-scene1-4)

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// group the sub scene selectors

switch_1:
sub_mastergroup:1
sub_select:1
...
switch:4
sub_mastergroup:1
sub_select:4

// group the pads into a sub-scene

pad_1:
sub_scene:1
...
pad_16:
sub_scene:1

I hope you get the idea...

Last one: I was thinking about wrapping some sort of GUI around this that could modify the configuration of the farmpad while in active mode - do you think that would be possible? Or it could exit and reenter active mode quickly with the new settings...

Thanks again for this great application!!!!!!

Inspired greetings


Raphael
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[hudeompka]

this app is unbelievable. I only bought my padkontrol last week to use with live and was about to return it when i discovered how crippled it was, but this farmpad makes it essential!

quick question; is it possible to use scene swaps without having to use a scene select switch to do it? the elegance of being able to press a single button and be in a different scene, especially with the way you have pad groups set up, would be fantastic...

also is there a way to change the data entry dials responsiveness? it seems to take 3-4 turns to register as one scene down in ableton, not a big deal, but curious if it's hackable

thank you so much for this wee app, i have even learnd how terminal works for other projects thanks to this

[sawatzki]

thank you so much for this wee app, i have even learnd how terminal works for other projects thanks to this

Hehe... I never used my terminal much, but since farmpad, i even changed the looks of the terminal window because i will be using it a lot more!

[sawatzki]

2. Shift-functions / sub-scenes
-I was playing excessively with doc holiday's step sequencer and need more steps. Would it be possible to make a function that combines the functionality of groups and scenes - e.g. when I hold (or toggle) a predefined switch, the pads section (or any predefined group of triggers) switches to a sub-scene?

I was thinking this way:
Group the switches [scene],[message],[fixed vel.]and [prog chng],
so they can toggle between sub-scenes of the pad section:
[scene] = pads 1-16 (sub-scene1-1)
[message] = pads 17-32 (sub-scene1-2)
[fixed vel.] = pads 33 - 48 (sub-scene1-3)
[prg chng] = pads 49 - 64 (sub-scene1-4)

While reading your posts and the config files from ver. 1.2 again, I understand that it might be possible to have such a functionality with the noteshift function....
but, will the visual feedback work when in noteshift?

[hudeompka]

also is there a way to change the data entry dials responsiveness? it seems to take 3-4 turns to register as one scene down in ableton, not a big deal, but curious if it's hackable

figured out answer to this selecting different MIDI modes in Live, however none of them seem to work correctly. In all relative modes it seems to have it's own ideas about what fwd and backward scrolling are...is anyone having any luck with the data wheel as scene selector and if so what mode do you use it in? trying not to dilute the topic but seems best place to find an answer

[hudeompka]

okay, i have been writing up files and learning the ins and outs of farmpad , and have found another answer to my problems;

Receive Program Change

Farmpad transmits Program Change, but I don't think it receives, is this even possible to add? it is yet another feature korg has left off the list in the original.

I can then use another midi controller with 8 dedicated buttons for 8 tracks in live, hit the Pk prog change on that, and have 8 x-y pads available without ever having to hit key combos on the pK

i was talking about the elegance of being able to group pads, (say 1-8) hit pad 6, which would then go to scene 6, tweak the xy pad, (mapped to track 6 fx in ableton), hit 4 which would take me then to scene 4 tweak the xy pad there mapped to track 4 fx in ableton) etc etc etc

being able to do the same thing with a program change on another box dedicated to that would also be cool,

both suggestions end up with same solution, just a matter of which if either is implementable



I will cease from posting any more requests, questions....just a bit overexcited about the possibilities of this app

[flycycle]

I've just uploaded 1.2.1 which fixes a couple of bugs that I dropped in to 1.2...

Thanks sawatzki and hudeompka for the kind words, I appreciate the feedback

1. The LED segment display:
- How can I address the three points in the display?
- when scrolling, is there a way to influence the scrolling speed exactly?
(I was thinking of a visual metronome in the display...)
(Imagine if you could address the Display by MIDI while in active mode!!)

You can't access the dots thru farmpad at the moment, it's possible but I haven't gotten around to adding it in yet. Same goes for changing the led scroll speed. The metronome idea is cool, and now I've got midi in handled it wouldn't be too difficult to get midi clock messages to show up. Not sure what you mean by 'address the display by midi'?

For shift functions and sub-scenes, I think I'm going to add in more ways of selecting scenes - so holding a switch to show a scene temporarily, or having switches that directly access a specific scene. I think that would cover what you're suggesting?

Last one: I was thinking about wrapping some sort of GUI around this that could modify the configuration of the farmpad while in active mode - do you think that would be possible? Or it could exit and reenter active mode quickly with the new settings...

At the moment no, but I'll have a think about it =) I don't really have time to work on a gui for farmpad, but I'd be happy to open it up to being controlled by another app - just have to figure out the best way to do it...

also is there a way to change the data entry dials responsiveness? it seems to take 3-4 turns to register as one scene down in ableton, not a big deal, but curious if it's hackable

I think the problem you're having is that Ableton maps a control's range (0-127) to the number of scenes you have, so if you only have the default 20 scenes then it'll take 6 or 7 clicks to move to the next scene. Best thing to do is set up with 128 scenes, then each click will move one scene.
The encoder is speed sensitive tho, so if you move it quickly it'll change values faster than one at a time.

Farmpad transmits Program Change, but I don't think it receives, is this even possible to add? it is yet another feature korg has left off the list in the original.

Hmm yeah I'll add that in to the next version... Guess that means 128 scenes then

[flycycle]

While reading your posts and the config files from ver. 1.2 again, I understand that it might be possible to have such a functionality with the noteshift function....
but, will the visual feedback work when in noteshift?

noteshift only offsets the note on/off messages that are sent by pads and switches, no other parameters for the controls are affected. The note offset applies only to the scene you're on. This lets you add octave up/down buttons, or other offsets like fifths or summit crazy. You don't get any visual feedback from noteshift, as it'd get a bit confusing when you combine note and control data on the same pad...