DEAR PAOLO- for things for easy work.

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:07 pm

Other 2 suggestions-

SEQUENCER>MENU>SONG EDIT>COPY>MERGE-

If I will copy a track to track, [all to all], it will not save the deferent sound of it, and the copied track will change to have the same sound of the track that it was copied to it.
In other words- I do not have a way to mix 2 tracks together and to keep the deferent sounds of them there.
There times that we already use the 16 midi tracks in the work, [without using 120 voices [oscillators]] but we need\want to have other empty track for recording, and if we have the ability to merge tracks with deferent sounds [ON THE KB, with out the need to take it out to the computer…] it was a good solution for that.

If we can plan beforehand the work of recording, we can have other solution-
To make 1 user sound that is a mix of the sounds of the 3UP tracks, and to use it in the 1 up track, and then we will have the 2 and 3 UP tracks free for recording.
But it is a long way for working especially that for this procedure of mixing 3 sounds to 1 sound we will need to copy the OSCILLATORS one after one.
In-
SOUND>MENU>BASIC>popup menu in the up right>COPY OSCILLATOR-
There is no way to copy all the Oscillators of a sound to other sound in one time!

It is a one example in work, for the needed of the 2 suggestions that I'm going to write, but there is more useful usage in work with it, and with out to be dependent together.
So I will be very happy if KORG will make the 2 of them to be, for easier work.

IN-
SEQUENCER>MENU>SONG EDIT>COPY>MERGE-

To have the ability to merge 2 tracks, and the 2 of them will have there different sound in the same track. [And will not be the same sound in that track, like now…]

IN-
SOUND>MENU>BASIC>popup menu in the up right>COPY OSCILLATOR-
To have the ability to copy all the oscillators of sound to other sound, [And the oscillators Count will grow accordingly]. OR other option to mix 2 sounds to be one new sound.

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:53 am

Hi Avi,
are you sure??
I sometimes edit my style parts in the Korg sequencer
ie
Export PA800 Style part ( which is saved as .mid)
Load it into the Korg Sequencer, and use a couple of the edit functions that aren't available in the stylemaker section.
I save it as a .mid & import it back straight into the style.
There's only one hassle.
The Korg sequencer inserts an additional bar at the begginning of the .mid.
I just goto the "Cut " function in edit mode & cut bar 1.

AVI6520 wrote:
It will make easy way for working with making styles, when importing them from midi.
The PA do not save midi 0, so you need to "take it out" to a computer to change the MIDI to midi 0,
So- you can not just record the midi on the PA and then imported it to the style, [Like for intro, for example...] and it is a long way for working.
For sure the ability to import a GM2 midi to a style [and all the parameters\controllers will still be there like in the midi] will be better idea,
but if KORG will not make it, so at least to have a way to save MIDI "0" ON THE KB.

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:52 pm

rikkisbears wrote:Hi Avi,
are you sure??
I sometimes edit my style parts in the Korg sequencer
ie
Export PA800 Style part ( which is saved as .mid)
Load it into the Korg Sequencer, and use a couple of the edit functions that aren't available in the stylemaker section.
I save it as a .mid & import it back straight into the style.
There's only one hassle.
The Korg sequencer inserts an additional bar at the begginning of the .mid.
I just goto the "Cut " function in edit mode & cut bar 1.

AVI6520 wrote:
It will make easy way for working with making styles, when importing them from midi.
The PA do not save midi 0, so you need to "take it out" to a computer to change the MIDI to midi 0,
So- you can not just record the midi on the PA and then imported it to the style, [Like for intro, for example...] and it is a long way for working.
For sure the ability to import a GM2 midi to a style [and all the parameters\controllers will still be there like in the midi] will be better idea,
but if KORG will not make it, so at least to have a way to save MIDI "0" ON THE KB.

Dear RIKKI,

Thanks for your replay.

Have you tried to export complete midi [with few tracks] that you have record for intro, and not only one part-track?
And after that, have you try to load it for an intro for a song?
It did not work for me simply…

And in the PA800 manual [ver 1:00- [p-126]]\ [ver1.51 p-132]-KORG have write-"Note-Only SMF in format 0 can be loaded".

Format 0 makes us to do other work again, to build the midi newly again, -long way…
And to take the midi out the KB to make it MIDI 0 [and not GM2 like it is…], more long way for work…

By the way- what do you think about this post and the other suggestions, is it unnecessary?

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:24 pm

Other suggestion-

Improving in Event Edit:

There is no way for changing the same note for the entire track, in all the places that it's there and you need to do it one by one. [The need is more belonging to "drum" and "perc" tracks],

The suggestion is-
To have a way for automatic change for the note, in all the places in the track, additional to the usual option for changing just the selected note.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:36 am

Hi Avi,

You use the transpose function to transpose a single note.

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:09 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:Hi Avi,

You use the transpose function to transpose a single note.

HI dear ROB,

Sorry-
I do not understand what you want to say.
Is it deferent with the PA2X?

With the PA800 you can not change the same note for the entire track in one procedure, that this note will be change only, [with out to change the other notes transpose in the track].
In the –
MENU>SONG EDIT \or\STYLE EDIT>TRANSPOSE> you can not change only one note, it is changing all the notes in the track.
And the transpose buttons do nothing, in the EVENT EDIT mode.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:14 pm

Avi,

I don't claim credit for the idea which I read recently on this forum but now can't find again. You set the transpose note range to just one note, and the duration to the entire song. Then transpose that one note wherever you want it to go. Works with percussion as well.

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:21 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:Avi,

I don't claim credit for the idea which I read recently on this forum but now can't find again. ......

Here it is-

I know...

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=37415

So- I can understand from your answer that you did not try it yet, are you?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:26 pm

No Avi,

I will let those of you with working keyboards try it first.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:27 pm

... thankfully I took lots of video footage last time my Pa2x was working, and I can sit watching that instead

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:40 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:... thankfully I took lots of video footage last time my Pa2x was working, and I can sit watching that instead

You are watching video footage, and I'm waiting to the new OS 2, and release my tension with drumming with my ROLAND V-drums,

[sorry KORG- you do not have drums…],
So eventually I'm do not use the PA800 too. Funny, isn't it?

By the way- what's going with your PA2X, have you move something with the hotel?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:47 pm

I know several LED's are blown, but the main problem is that I'm speakerless while awaiting delivery of the new sound system.

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:58 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:I know several LED's are blown, but the main problem is that I'm speakerless while awaiting delivery of the new sound system.

Do you mean that you can fix it [-pa2x]?, and you will not need to buy new KB?
It's good news, even that still it cost you money, it is not costly like buying new KB, isn't it?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:02 pm

I can replace a few LED's, yes. But I don't yet know if its anything more serious like a custom surface mount IC blown. There are some surface mount devices there with over 100 pins. No way can I desolder those and replace them.

AVI6520 · Post by **AVI6520** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:14 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:I can replace a few LED's, yes. But I don't yet know if its anything more serious like a custom surface mount IC blown. There are some surface mount devices there with over 100 pins. No way can I desolder those and replace them.

Very sorry for all of this, for you,

I'm praying that things will come better, and you will be so rich, so you will not feel any pain any more from what that happened to you.
You are good men that doing good for other people, things will must to be come good for you too.