Programming EXI's from scratch

[sharp11]

Hi Guys,

Well, once again I'm a bit stymied by my Oasys.

While there are tons of great sounds included with the EXI's, I'd like to roll my own.

Problem is, I can't find an initialized patch of the kind you get with almost any synth - I just need a basic synth waveform to start with.

Help!!!

I've been through every bank (the HD-1 banks have this, sort of, with the basic piano sample patch, but where's the equivalent EXi versions?)

Thanks in advance (I've done a search here too, but couldn't find anything).

Ed

[peter m. mahr]

hi ed,

if i understand you right then you want to start from scratch with al-1, ms-20 polysix e.a., right? one way could be in case you have an empty hd-1 bank in the user program banks to change it to an exi program bank. press "global" activate the pull down menu, choose "set program user bank type" (or something like that) and change the empty hd-1 one bank to an exi.

hope that is what you are looking for.

peter

[sharp11]

hi ed,

if i understand you right then you want to start from scratch with al-1, ms-20 polysix e.a., right? one way could be in case you have an empty hd-1 bank in the user program banks to change it to an exi program bank. press "global" activate the pull down menu, choose "set program user bank type" (or something like that) and change the empty hd-1 one bank to an exi.

hope that is what you are looking for.

peter

Thanks man, yes that's what I want to do - I'll give it a whirl.

Is that the only way? That means having a whole bank set up ......

Ed

[peter m. mahr]

Ed,

that's the way how I did it. I programmed one sound for each EXi to the "basic setting" I like to use and stored it then to the internal hard disc. I then load the one I want to work from the hard disc with and store the sounds to the internal User Bank F which is "my" EXi sound bank. Beside that and posted here several times, you can listen to the sounds in the program banks directly from disc, which is a very nice feature.

.. by the way, you have to have a whole EXi bank as you cannot store EXi sounds in a HD1 bank. Thus you have to set one for your sounds anyway.

peter

[danatkorg]

You can create an initialized EXi by simply changing the EXi Instrument Type. If you have a double Program, you'll need to change both Types (or set one of them to off). For step-by-step instructions, see "Creating an initialized MOD-7 Program" on page 331 of the Parameter Guide (E5 version).

Best regards,

Dan

[sharp11]

Thanks guys,

I've already programmed a couple of AL1 sounds and fashioned a cue around it.

It's a great synth, but it took me awhile to get used to the interface, it's a bit dry looking, but it sure works. Lots of options, so I'm starting with one EXi per program.

I formed a terrificly simple patch with two lfos wired to aftertouch - it was so compelling I then wrote an entire cue around this patch!!

I followed Pete's suggestion and changed an HD bank to an EXi, the AL synth comes up initialized, which is exactly what I want, but I couldn't find a way to change it to the other EXi's (the LAC, MOD etc.)

Is there a simple step I'm not getting?

Thanks.

Ed

[danatkorg]

I followed Pete's suggestion and changed an HD bank to an EXi, the AL synth comes up initialized, which is exactly what I want, but I couldn't find a way to change it to the other EXi's (the LAC, MOD etc.)

Is there a simple step I'm not getting?

Thanks.

Ed

Try my suggestion above.

- Dan

[peter m. mahr]

Ed,

as a side note, give Daz' randomizer software a try. You can find the download links for example at the end of this posting: http://blog.petermmahr.com/2007/09/13/o ... omizer-ii/

peter

addendum:

I formed a terrificly simple patch with two lfos wired to aftertouch - it was so compelling I then wrote an entire cue around this patch!!

..this is another example that proves OASYS being a real musical instrument

[sharp11]

For step-by-step instructions, see "Creating an initialized MOD-7 Program" on page 331 of the Parameter Guide (E5 version).

Best regards,

Dan

Do I have this guide?

The only printed material I have is the original manuals.

Ed

[danatkorg]

For step-by-step instructions, see "Creating an initialized MOD-7 Program" on page 331 of the Parameter Guide (E5 version).

Best regards,

Dan

Do I have this guide?

The only printed material I have is the original manuals.

Ed

You can download the latest manuals, in PDF format, from korguser.net. If you don't have them already, I'd strongly advise getting them! They have many improvements throughout, more than just documentation of the new features.

- Dan

[sharp11]

You can download the latest manuals, in PDF format, from korguser.net. If you don't have them already, I'd strongly advise getting them! They have many improvements throughout, more than just documentation of the new features.

- Dan

Thanks Dan, got it.

I work in a hectic and busy environment and sometimes the Korg way doesn't always make sense to me.

For instance, it should be easier to do basic file structure type of things, like call up an initialized patch, edit and save it to the HD just as one would do with a computer.

Instead, from what I gather (if I'm wrong, please correct me) - I have to go to the bank where the initialized patches reside, edit, then save to the unit's onboard patch memory, then save to the HD using a strange system of deselecting boxes.

All this is easy to learn and do IF the Oasys is the only unit one works with, but in a busy environment, it's just another confusing OS among many - one would hope Korg would adapt to more OSX-like file structures since the Korg is in effect, a computer running a Linux system anyway.

It's 2008, do we still need PCG's and KCG's etc?

[danatkorg]

The HD is big. I wouldn't worry about trying to optimize storage by selecting specific banks in the save dialog. (I agree, btw, that this could be improved - remember, my group worked primarily on the synthesizers and effects!)

Note that, in general, there's no particular reason to store to the HD every time you make an edit. The contents of memory are persistent.

Off-topic, looking at your website, I notice that we've both done music for ATWT.

Best regards,

Dan

[sharp11]

The HD is big. I wouldn't worry about trying to optimize storage by selecting specific banks in the save dialog. (I agree, btw, that this could be improved - remember, my group worked primarily on the synthesizers and effects!)

Note that, in general, there's no particular reason to store to the HD every time you make an edit. The contents of memory are persistent.

Off-topic, looking at your website, I notice that we've both done music for ATWT.

Best regards,

Dan

Ha, yes Dan - ten years almost at ATWT now.

Ed