KP3 few questions!

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geckonium
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KP3 few questions!

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Hello,
Please could some1 tell me few things that I can't figure out about the kp3

1) is it possible that effect only affects live recording (as speaking to mic or line in) without affecting the samples that are playing from samplebanks???
(I'll post video from youtube if you don't know what I'm talking about... some guy did the exactly same thing that I'm asking here but he wouldn't tell me how he did it...)

2)which SD card is best to use?
since I'm having sandisk & verbatim 2gb and they are too slow with loading samples and when turning on the kp3 it loads forever...
but I saw my friend using 512mb and It's much much faster!

thanks in advance
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Post by dayuri »

To the first question, as far as I know, and as far as I have seen discussed in this forum you either put effect on everything or nothing. It is possible to put effects on everything except the input by putting your signal from an external device (guitar mic etc) into the KP3's line output instead of input. I'd be interested to see this video.

To the second question I haven't tried it myself, but supposedly difference between cards is minimal. Some users a while ago tried with different cards but (anyone correct me if I'm wrong) there was not much speed difference - however if you find a card that allows you to load extra fast then please tell me!
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Post by xmlguy »

dayuri wrote:It is possible to put effects on everything except the input by putting your signal from an external device (guitar mic etc) into the KP3's line output instead of input. I'd be interested to see this video.
If you hook up a guitar or mic to the KP3's line output, there's a good chance you burn up the mic or the guitar pickup/electronics, which is an expensive mistake if someone tries what you say.
geckonium
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Post by geckonium »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawodGFL6xo

see 1:30 effects on mic but not on loops / samplebanks
and he is using only 1 kaoss pad
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Post by geckonium »

xmlguy wrote:
dayuri wrote:It is possible to put effects on everything except the input by putting your signal from an external device (guitar mic etc) into the KP3's line output instead of input. I'd be interested to see this video.
If you hook up a guitar or mic to the KP3's line output, there's a good chance you burn up the mic or the guitar pickup/electronics, which is an expensive mistake if someone tries what you say.
ye I would never do that...
wonder if some1 already did :D
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geckonium wrote:
xmlguy wrote:
dayuri wrote:It is possible to put effects on everything except the input by putting your signal from an external device (guitar mic etc) into the KP3's line output instead of input. I'd be interested to see this video.
If you hook up a guitar or mic to the KP3's line output, there's a good chance you burn up the mic or the guitar pickup/electronics, which is an expensive mistake if someone tries what you say.
ye I would never do that...
wonder if some1 already did :D
Err...I did? Been doing it for a while with bass, guitar and synth, though perhaps now I'll stop, heh.

He's using a mini KP before a KP3 in series. When you're hearing just effects on vocals hes only using the mini KP.
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Post by xmlguy »

geckonium wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawodGFL6xo

see 1:30 effects on mic but not on loops / samplebanks
and he is using only 1 kaoss pad
No, he has two Kaosspads. He has a KP3 and there's a miniKP to the top left of it. He has the vocals going through the miniKP before going to the KP3 input, and you can see him using the pad of the miniKP just before the point in the video you described. Mystery solved.
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Post by OutCold »

Sorry too jack the thread but i guess its ever better than making anew one about the same general purpose:

Im wondering if u can record one effect in one recording session on one instrument, then do another recording session with another effect on the same instrument and still have the first effect from the first session applied too the instrument?

OR

Can you only use this as an effectprocessor playing LIVE when at concert and not actually record the effect into the song?


god im AWFUL at explanations, bear with me :=)
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Post by xmlguy »

Any effects that you use can be recorded using the RESAMPLE function onto a sample pad. You can even layer different effects by resampling multiple times to different pads.
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Post by OutCold »

xmlguy wrote:Any effects that you use can be recorded using the RESAMPLE function onto a sample pad. You can even layer different effects by resampling multiple times to different pads.
Does that mean i can LIVE feed the effect back into the recording on that single isntrument, or do i need too load the effect into a kp3 pad then import it as a sample-wav-mp3 file or whatever and put back into the tune? If thats the way too do it it would creat a a problem if using it with vsti instruments. Do i have too RECORD and bring the sample as a separate file or can i automate effects directly onto vst instruments?

God im terrible at explaining :P Simply put a midi controller uses the effects in the vsti program and i can auomate with midi buttons, can i record the same way with the kp3 except also have the effects from the kaosspadd automated into the sample during the creation process?
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Post by xmlguy »

By recording, I thought you were referring to recording on the KP3, but apparently you're recording on a computer DAW program, not on the KP3 itself. In that case, you need to send the audio from the DAW to the KP3 and then record the results of the effects from the output of the KP3 on a different stereo audio track in the DAW program. There will be a delay between the original audio track and the recorded audio tracks, which you'll need to correct afterward. The amount of delay depends on your audio I/O interface and the speed of your computer and DAW software. The KP3 doesn't cause a delay unless you use an effect with sampling/delay built-in. There is nothing special about the KP3 in this regard, since any outboard effects like a rack effects unit would be recorded exactly the same way.

You can only do one effect program at a time on the KP3, so if you want to do multiple effects for a song, then you need to do each effect one at a time and record the results. Normally you will keep the original audio tracks intact and record the results to different/new tracks, so that you can try different effects until you get the result you like without losing the originals.
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Post by OutCold »

If FL Studio or Reason and native instruments are DAW`s then yes

Aaah, so icant make it interact with vst instruments directly only the complete sample sequenze itself, and i will have too adjust the delay cause by the sendthrou and clip away the original sequenze in the song and use the one that i recorded throu DAW-kp3-DAW....am i getting this right?

If im right in my last text then that means it should work the way i was thinking/wanting it too just with an extra step since it wont interact with vsti`S like Native instruments.

What i was worried was that the effects would only be effective during LIVE playing and not be recordable into my FL or Reason but u can infact confirm that it will?
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Post by geckonium »

thanks all!
especially xmlguy
as you said mystery solved!
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