Is this possible, just a thought?

[Ten2One]

I have taken one 88 key back and the one I have now has the note off problem. I think there might be a conspiracy against those who are having problems with defective units to paint them all as bitchers, whiners, complainers. I am frustrated with Korg because of their silence for almost a month after the date they said we should see a fix.

I was going to return my second kronos last week but read there might be an anouncement of a fix so I held on to it. No announcement has materialized so I'll return it tomorrow.

The Kronos was my 1st choice and I will wait until korg gets all this sorted out. I could have purchased a motif xf or jupiter 80 for less money but they don't compare to the kronos except for th e quality issues.

If my complaints concerning the defects of the "three" 88 key kronos i've have seen offends anyone, I'm sorry. My intension is not to damage korg - if feel korg has done a pretty good job of that with the way they have handled these issues.

Ten2One

[KronosSoundDesigns]

what i mean Kontrol49 is that if a korg forum user is dissing the Kronos and claims their Kronos needs repair then if Korg USA who sponsers this forum cant track the complaint to an actual owner,

then of course its attempted outside manipulation of the reputation of Korg by a competitor or someone who just hates korg. if you don't own a kronos or never have, but complain on this forum of its faults you are a perp.

[Sam CA]

I did a little research and found that a lot of the people complaining are new to the forums. Now, not to make those who really have an issue mad, but I think IMHO, that its possible that there are anti-Korg forum users here trying to thwart the sucess of the kronos.

keep in mind the only reason why some people join this forum is because they're having some kind of problem with their korg gears. Either they didn't know how to operate the gear, or they wanted to report various problems or whatever.

[KronosSoundDesigns]

i agree to that. I joined to learn about programming the unit and stuff, not to sow discord.

[Kontrol49]

what i mean Kontrol49 is that if a korg forum user is dissing the Kronos and claims their Kronos needs repair then if Korg USA who sponsers this forum cant track the complaint to an actual owner,

then of course its attempted outside manipulation of the reputation of Korg by a competitor or someone who just hates korg. if you don't own a kronos or never have, but complain on this forum of its faults you are a perp.

Korg aren't going to go to that amount of trouble to even worry about disclosing or finding out that information,regardless of them hosting the forum,they have no business or even any right to discriminate people from using or joining the forum just because they may under your assumptions be fabricating issues in an attempt to slag off the Brand,people have different experiences with different brands,Korg have more pressing things to be worried about than policing this forum,if your concerned about certain things contact the moderators

The Kronos has been scuppered with a few QC issues,its natural some people are going to express a concern on a Korg forum,(and some of these have been from longtime members)You'll get a stampede of newbies with any new device because its probably more immediate a response than the Technical support from Korg itself whether they are platinum members or newbies alike and irrespective of if they are genuine owners or not,there is no need for Korg to go to that extent of banning people,should the Police lock up everybody just so they make sure all criminals are captured

Korg have a very good reputation,the long standing members in here will vouch for that a few negative topics isn't going to do them harm,don't take things to Heart,its not nice to read negativity of any instrument you pride,(many of us got it from Oasys haters)forget about it,and let the moderators sort the violators out.

Enjoy your stay here and enjoy your Kronos,you'll work out the genuine people in here,haters will always be around in any forum,you can't control it,tommorow they'll attack some other brand,leave the QC and badpress issues to Korg,from your gear sig I can see your more than well versed in knowing that reputation for excellent instruments from the Korg Brand,don't let a few pointless vibes ruin your experience

[jamsire]

Well, I know I definitely complained - but I sure as heck apologized.

Not interested in helping the competition - which is what I was doing.

[GregC]

what i mean Kontrol49 is that if a korg forum user is dissing the Kronos and claims their Kronos needs repair then if Korg USA who sponsers this forum cant track the complaint to an actual owner,

then of course its attempted outside manipulation of the reputation of Korg by a competitor or someone who just hates korg. if you don't own a kronos or never have, but complain on this forum of its faults you are a perp.

Actually, there are posters who are not Kronos owners who are inclined to voice their opinion about korg, and the opinions are highly critical of korg .

Why they create a ' 2nd hand 'opinion is odd, IMO, but it's not post I gave much credence , too. They might be called trolls.

[Kontrol49]

Not interested in helping the competition - which is what I was doing.

Not that there is much at the moment in the W/S bracket.....

Surely there's been some developments in the other camps since Kronos came to light

Have to wait and see what goodies NAMM 2012 brings

[Ten2One]

Well, I got the Kronos boxed up and ready to return tomorrow. I set my kurzweil pc2x up and it was good to say goodbye to note cut off problems.

Wow, what a difference in sound. The kronos is so far ahead in terms of sound it's not even funny. The kurz seems very dull now after playing the kronos, and thats just the pianos. The keybed has a better feel than the kurz as well.

I don't expect NAMM to present anything that will compete with the kronos. I'll be watching this forum for what amounts to an "all clear" and then I'll take another look.

Ten2One

[Dniss]

To the OP:

With all the vids backing up claims, I don't see how it could be remotely the case.

[Lando]

Every forum will have their share of crazy trolls, and the softer the forum is moderated the more trolls there will be.

I honestly don't think the forum is attacked by anti Korgs and I also belive that it's beyond any doubt that Korg have had some serious problems with the Kronos. Just saying "Korg doesn't release crap" is just naive when there have been so much issues with the keybed and other stuff, not least the deliviry of the actual synth.

[keyplayer14]

You know there have been so many bad reports about the Kronos here, no matter 61,73,88 note versions. I did a little research and found that a lot of the people complaining are new to the forums. Now, not to make those who really have an issue mad, but I think IMHO, that its possible that there are anti-Korg forum users here trying to thwart the sucess of the kronos. Possibly put to this by Yamaha, Kurzweil, Nord etc. All because the Kronos is superior and the most advanced instrument to date. Think about it 9 synth engines, SSD, karma, wave sequencing. and vector synthesis, sampling with effects, a built in 16 track DAW, and 16 track sequencer.

Korg is the leader in the industry and the lowest price Kronos is $3k. They don't let crap come out of their factories. The other companies do. Plain and simple.

Er, no. People are posting because they have issues with the Kronos, and Korg has publicly acknowledged that issues exist ( with the keybed ). There may be a small percentage of trolling and some are more vocal about the subject than others, but basically people are describing their experiences. It's also true, if you do a little more research, that one of the reasons these threads have so much prominence is due to having to argue the facts with people who claim that complainers are either lying, mad, can't play, and a host of other silly reasons why folks shouldn't be a little aggrieved that their £3k+ purchase isn't working properly.
I'm not a big user of internet forums but I joined this one before getting my Kronos because I was pretty excited about it and thought it would be a big help in getting the best out of it. I'm no stranger to Korg gear though because I've been using it professionally since the mid eighties - and I've never before had any problems. I've also pointed out in several other replies that I think the Kronos is a fantastic board with endless possibilities, which is why it's so very disappointing that that it currently has these issues.
Since you are a new member here and not a Kronos owner, using your own logic we'd have to assume that you've been put in by Korg in an attempt to redress the balance....

[cello]

Korg is the leader in the industry

Yes, I chose to believe that too

and the lowest price Kronos is $3k.

In the USA yes. In the rest of the world it is £2,500 or more

They don't let crap come out of their factories.

Historically I think that's fair - but UNCHARACTERISTICALLY something has gone wrong with SOME of the Kronos' out there. Fact.

The other companies do.

If this is true please direct me to the complaint threads about the build quality of similarly priced keyboards.

Plain and simple.

Plain and simply wrong.

[KronosSoundDesigns]

uh, no..... I created this post to expose any possible foul play that's it, I admitted to not owning a Kronos yet and that i am here to learn more about it, in advance. Then i noticed a sticky for a Kronos wish list. The author of the sticky says in another post he hasn't used his kronos hardly at all and it sat for 6 months and then wouldn't power up, well prior to that in the wish list sticky, somehow even though he hardly used his Kronos, he was knowledgeable enough about to know what was missing from the Kronos (feature wise). I found that a little odd.

If i worked for Korg believe me I would own one by now, Im sure their employees are paid very well. I'll tell you this, the more people I win back to the Kronos / Korg the more money, Korg will have to put into QA.

[keyplayer14]

Korg is the leader in the industry

Yes, I chose to believe that too

and the lowest price Kronos is $3k.

In the USA yes. In the rest of the world it is £2,500 or more

They don't let crap come out of their factories.

Historically I think that's fair - but UNCHARACTERISTICALLY something has gone wrong with SOME of the Kronos' out there. Fact.

The other companies do.

If this is true please direct me to the complaint threads about the build quality of similarly priced.

Plain and simple.

Plain and simply wrong.

Cello, I agree entirely - except to point out that somehow the quotes have gone wrong, I didn't say this stuff!