New Analogue Electribe on the way?

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:26 pm

Hold on- don't get too exited! But I was in my music shop purchasing an Arturia Minibrute the other day and the salesman (who seems to be in the know about these things) tells me that he has got wind that Korg are making a new Analogue Electribe based on the MS 20. Does anyone know any more about this?

sohatyi · Post by **sohatyi** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:31 pm

Well, the ms20 is monophonic, so it would be some kind of mono tribe. If only such a product could possibly exist. Still, a man can dream!

neotechtonics · Post by **neotechtonics** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:01 pm

I have a sneaking suspicion that Korg are going to drop a bomb on us next year (or perhaps a dud)

Based on the lower costing items in their product range they have a huge scope for what they could put together with parts from each.

lets just pray they don't go screw the pooch and release a hard/soft hybrid electribe.

sohatyi · Post by **sohatyi** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:20 pm

Stuff the analog idea, I'd give my back teeth for an updated emx, more synth parts, polyphonic, records velocity, about 1000 New pcm samples, updated effects (with subtypes) and more filter options. Oh and some decent arp options. Grrrrr.

neotechtonics · Post by **neotechtonics** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:45 pm

I agree wholeheartedly.. f*ck the analogue..

Electribe with optional sampling on the drum parts or using your own single cycle waveforms for synth (create your own PCM sounds!), polyphonic synth, 48 ppqn resolution (I hate being stuck on the grid). Get rid of the valves they just produce heat and noise (mostly.. The heat is nice in winter but in South African summers its unbearable!) USB to drop samples onto it and SD card slot. Maybe 2 extra outputs. And definitely BETTER FX and routing! A decent ADSR envelope would be nice too.

That really isn't asking too much... Is it?

EDIT: I picked myself up a Roland MC303 recently and after playing around with it a short while I noticed how many simple things it has that the electribes really shouldve had all along.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:02 pm

The salesman is confused. Don't rely on salesmen to know anything except how their commission checks are calculated and what date they get paid.

He's probably repeating something someone told him about the monotribe, iMS20, or iElectribe, and doesn't realize that it's already shipping.

Telengard · Post by **Telengard** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:59 pm

I agree with skipping the analog and updating the EMX and ESX. I would love to see a mini or micro version of them, though. THAT I would give up all my stuff for!!!!!

neotechtonics · Post by **neotechtonics** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:07 pm

Telengard wrote:I agree with skipping the analog and updating the EMX and ESX. I would love to see a mini or micro version of them, though. THAT I would give up all my stuff for!!!!!

Then you can probably look forward to awesome menu editting ala-microkorg... That'd be awesome for live use wouldn't it? [Sarcasm]

sohatyi · Post by **sohatyi** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:05 pm

It would be easy to fit even more controls and a much larger screen into the existing footprint, the panel is actually quite sparse, the silk screens make it look busy. +1 on the wave import, extra outs etc. Simple features really. Envelope could be done via a menu as it isn't much of a performance control. Either that or assignable performance controls under the new larger, higher resolution screen.

My biggie would be 32, step keys, interleaved up and down (reducing the form factor) with velocity sensitivity. Then you'd get 32nd note out of the box and a two octave keyboard!

Cry UFO · Post by **Cry UFO** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:16 pm

It’s always questions of preference or how you use the EMX isn’t it? I don’t like using samples I wouldn’t want to see the EMX with any sampling abilities or more PCM sounds, that’s what the ESX is; a sampler not a drum machine synth box.

Hell I even like the sloppy sequencer it makes it feel real, recently while recording a EP I used Pro Tools as the clock and it sounded so sterile I stopped using it and went back to the 200ms or so drift I get with my EMX’s

To me hardware having character is what makes (for me) hardware cool it’s always that thing with hardware their limitations become a creative tool in itself.

SO my wish list for a new EMX would be:

Proper ADSR envelopes
Analogue Drums (with pitch/tune/decay etc)
Some parts of the MS-20/monotribe smashed together under the hood for the synths
More outs with EFXs able to route to those outs
The gate/Arpeggiator from the 1st gen Kaossilator
Oh and better quality knobs … speaking of that does anyone have a link for replacement knobs that are of a better quality?

… even chuck in a XY screen for beat repeats etc.

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:35 pm

Punpkomg- what's the lowdown on the MC 303 having things that the Electribes are missing? I have owned the 505, 808, 307 and the D2 in my time- but I think that the Electribes are far easier to get your tracks down- in particular the 'TR' recording method I hated. Do you know- is the 303 different in any/many ways to the MC's that I have mentioned as far as the actual recording method is concerned.- also is there a knob for controlling the gate time? I had always thought that the 303 had too many limitations to consider it- but perhaps I was wrong

neotechtonics · Post by **neotechtonics** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:12 am

I'm not really familiar with the rest of the MC range. Tinkered with a 808 and 909 before tho (just played some patterns amd sounds and skimmed over the manuals) the 303 is just a rompler and has some decent sounds but it is limited. The programming isn't nearly as easy as the electribes.. But then again I've been using the emx for a couple years. I'm not sure about gate time I'd have to read the manual again but its got an adsr enevlope... I haven't gone very deep with it yet.

Noteable things it has that electribes dont

Polyphonic parts, but very limited overall polyphony
Multiple drum sounds per drum part (ie can have 3 different kicks on the kick part)
Adsr envelope
Note velocity
'Groove' functionality (variance in note shift and velocity based on preset groove patterns)

I'm mostly interested in that last part... Other than that I really just bought it to clean and fix it up then pass on to someone wanting a cheap introduction to hardware.

6or someone that has used any other groovebox it'd probably be a dissapointment. But sometimes limitations can be a good thing. It might shed new light on how I use my EMXs... How to get the most out of so little.. And the drums are sweet! :p

djcactus · Post by **djcactus** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:30 am

we still got musikmesse and summer namm. With XMT they will probably start working on a new synth version of the electribe, though that is all speculation.

I would like to see an upgrade not involving just an SD upgrade. A USB port with librarian software for both the sampling models and synth models would be great. Personally i would like the sampler to get a little bit more robust with the times.

Other then that i cant purchase an electribe without knowing whether the hardware will continue to be supported or not.

Hugo · Post by **Hugo** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:35 am

sohatyi wrote:Stuff the analog idea, I'd give my back teeth for an updated emx, more synth parts, polyphonic, records velocity, about 1000 New pcm samples, updated effects (with subtypes) and more filter options. Oh and some decent arp options. Grrrrr.

+1. And, as others have mentioned, the synth parts should have proper envelopes. I'd also like to have sampling in the same unit. Effects for each individual part.

Edit: regarding the sampling part: loop crossfade is an absolute must!

robosardine · Post by **robosardine** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:22 pm

Aha!- I knew my contacts would not let me down. Time to wake up sohatyi-and make your mind up

I don't think these Volca's record motion sequences.... do they?