Kronos v Oasys factory sounds

[SanderXpander]

Stephen,

I hear what you say. Reality check kicking in. Thank you. If something appears too good to be true, it probably is !

Patrick

It is pretty quick and easy to actually load your entire Oasys file, and later to load your Kronos factory file again. What Stephen is saying is that in order to easily load your Oasys Catalyst combis you would need to load the entire Oasys file. If you load only the combis to a stock Kronos, they would be all messed up because it's looking for programs in the wrong location.

It's still entirely possible to load your Oasys sounds into a Kronos though. If you use the Catalyst pack a lot, I would consider buying it again for the Kronos to save yourself a lot of time and hassle.

Any custom programs that you made on the Oasys will transfer right over without issues, unless they use purchased sample banks (which you said they don't).

[AnthonyB]

Stephen, the Kronos 1 and Kronos x seem to use slightly different banks or something when loading, so would the catalyst vol 1 have slightly different load paths for the Kronos 1 (what I have ) and the Kronos x? (Then theres the Kronos 2

The Kronos 1 (original) and Kronos-X have the same program order, and the same program banks (except for some demo banks that were included in the Kronos-X). Therefore, we now supply two versions of Catalyst Vol. 1 and Reincarnated: one for the Kronos 1 and Kronos-X order, and one for the Kronos 2 order. You get both versions when you download the files, and instructions on how to load.

So, no - Kronos 1 and Kronos-X use the same file and same program order. Unless a person has specifically loaded the Kronos 2 version of the PCG files with the new order into an older Kronos.

Thanks Stephen. Page Two of your PDF (Catalyst Volume 1 – Creativity Xplosion!) seems to make thing more transparent for me. Quote

"CAT1_K_v1.PCG for original Kronos and Kronos-X Program order""

[methusala]

I think the perceived wisdom is that if I buy the K2, I'll buy the Catalyst Vol 1 applicable to that K. It won't break the bank---the Cat Vol 1 I mean. The door is still open for some transfer of sounds but I've to be very careful and it might not be for the faint-hearted, and when all said and done, is it really worth it ? The O is the O and the K is the K.

I hope this thread is some help to others with similar thoughts.

Actually, has anyone done this transfer ?

Patrick

[SanderXpander]

I think most O owners have done some sound transfer. I've loaded Oasys sounds myself. It's really only combis that have potential issues because of the bank order. Any programs you made yourself will transfer right over.

[Kontrol49]

I've done it as per my earlier post,there is no problem with sound conversion,the Oasys>Kronos PCG files import no problem,(can't vouch for any sample sets as I've not tried this)

it was just a case of locating the programs/drumkits used in the combis/songs from the Oasys Files and locating them with the correct ones as to how they were loaded within the Kronos banks,then saving the newer PCG on the Kronos drive.

[jbeliz]

I have owned the Oasys and now Kronos 2, i still love the look of the Oasys still think it was built way before it's time, awesome board overall a collectors piece, but the Kronos also brings functionality and ease of use specially if your into sampling the Kronos and need only 61 keys for easy transport sounded very similar to Oasys. I am still looking for an affordable Oasys just to have.

[methusala]

Interesting points indeed.

A large proportion of my own compositions come from the Combi banks with inserting a few timbre changes from Prog banks: again some with/without Karma and fx changes. I've obviously, from these replies, got some work cut out to convert over to the K, and your input has made we re-think now why I want to transfer across in my situation. In particular I've not really mastered editing the drum sets in the O, which could be a reason to change over. I've got enough pianos and guitars to be going on with but not enough orchestral samples. I don't gig. I don't do live performances. I am a pure hobbyist using the O perhaps 2 or 3 times a week---but 3/4 hours at a stretch--- recording via a PC into Cubase. Happy as a pig in clover !

My Reincarnated and Catalyst banks are virtually worn out with use, and help enormously with Stephen's explanation sheets to understand how this thing works. We owe him, or at least I do, a great debt of gratitude.

Thank you all.

Patrick

PS. MODERATORS. What has happened to the old Oasys threads when everyone was getting to grips with it during the early days? You could find umpteen threads on tips/tricks/tutorials. They were invaluable. Could I access them again somehow? I'd be after the drum threads.

[StephenKay]

My Reincarnated and Catalyst banks are virtually worn out with use, and help enormously with Stephen's explanation sheets to understand how this thing works. We owe him, or at least I do, a great debt of gratitude.

Thanks!

PS. MODERATORS. What has happened to the old Oasys threads when everyone was getting to grips with it during the early days? You could find umpteen threads on tips/tricks/tutorials. They were invaluable. Could I access them again somehow? I'd be after the drum threads.

I'm not a "moderator", but have you checked the OASYS forum here? As far as I know, everything is still in there:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... m.php?f=42

Also, there were a lot of discussions at the Karma-Lab OASYS Forum.

Just use the search features at each forum. Hope that helps!

[SoulBe]

Hi Methusala and Kontrol 49,

same thoughts here. I never considered to buy a Kronos after Korg stopped support for Oasys but every time when I m gigging with my O 76 I m afraid that something is breaking... Having read all the issues about the original Kronos now I maybe will try the MK 2 because I need the sounds and combies I built on the Oasys. It may be a little workaround but after all the mk 2 seems to be a secure step forward. Still not sure if using a mk 2 61 with an 88 controller oder a mk 73 with a 49/61 controller to have two keyboards......

best regards
Soulbe

[Kontrol49]

Hi Methusala and Kontrol 49,

same thoughts here. I never considered to buy a Kronos after Korg stopped support for Oasys but every time when I m gigging with my O 76 I m afraid that something is breaking... Having read all the issues about the original Kronos now I maybe will try the MK 2 because I need the sounds and combies I built on the Oasys. ...

best regards
Soulbe

This was my dilemma,Oasys as much as its solid,it became a headache to gig with,even with a 76 note,Oasys never had the 61 note alternative so had no option on a smaller board.

I wasn't afraid of it breaking as I took great care of it,but more concerned that spares wouldn't be so readily available due to the lack of numbers of units made,although I've never had any failures on stage,a few of the Tact switches were becoming harder to respond when pressed,although I had remedied this with a few drops of WD40 and they were brought to life again,it sort of got me a little concerned as to what would happen if I was unable to obtain any spares to fix any other problems,Kronos was the only other option as a backup but like yourself I was pissed at Korgs way of handling the whole concept of the Oasys after spending a vast amount of cash on it,and at the time was rather biased towards any further purchase of Korg workstations

Then Korg hadn't exactly won me over with the issues of the original Kronos,so i was going to hold off for the next generation workstation but MK2 came along.Its restored my faith in the brand again,it just feels a superb unit and the transition from Oasys to Kronos if you could say it was a transition just felt comfortable without any issues it was almost like the Oasys interface in mini but with extra bells and whistles,I have no regrets in making the move infact it feels like a liberation after gigging with a smaller board and the set list has made things so much more practical,The fact I can bring over everything I did in the Oasys without any problems makes it even better.

[SoulBe]

Hi Kontrol 49,

I have problems with the screen and also one switch (enter) does not react anymore. How did you manage the problem with the wd40? Did You open the Oasys up or put some drops onto the surface?

Best regards
Soulbe

[Kontrol49]

Hi Kontrol 49,

I have problems with the screen and also one switch (enter) does not react anymore. How did you manage the problem with the wd40? Did You open the Oasys up or put some drops onto the surface?

Best regards
Soulbe

Yes,I think it was Mike Conway who suggested using it(WD40) in another thread from another user experiencing the same issues.

Some of the tact switches are accessible without removing too much,other than the side screws to lift the main panel.I wouldn't spray down direct into the buttons,you'll need to open it up its Only 2 screws either end in the middle of the end cheeks and the main panel swivels up(make sure you tilt the screen to allow it to lift fully on its pivot.

The good thing about WD40 is that it comes with a straw so you maybe able to get a couple of drops onto some switches without taking any circuits apart,mine was the up and down arrows and the zero numeric.

The up/down arrows keys I needed to remove the left circuit board IIRC and the vector joystick assembly too i couldn't get at the Up button with the straw so had to take it apart this assembly included the slider and encoders board,so whilst I had it apart I did all the other buttons too and removed any dust with a paintbrush,All buttons work a treat now,use the straw direct from the nozzle or spray some liquid into the can lid and dab them on with a cotton bud or something you need to get it onto the tact switch shaft one or two Drops should be sufficient,press the switch up and down a few times too whilst doing it.

Took me about an hour or so to take apart and reassemble the left side boards,its a little fiddly especially the vector J/Stick assembly but apply a little common sense I tend to mark up where the screws go and put them into small separate pots so I don't forget where each screw goes,I didn't remove the right hand side board as I was able to get the WD40 onto the 0 key so you might be able to get at the Enter key too as its on the same circuitry line.

I also avoided spraying direct from the WD40 can nozzle incase I soaked other components using the straw will give you more accuracy

[media-igor]

I have a service manual for OASYS. If you want to - I can send

[SoulBe]

Hi,

that would be fine, please send it to me.
I found the other thread where Mike Conway said, he sprayed WD40 onto the contacts. I watched the unofficial Oasys CD how to open and also watched the instruction from Akos who changed some switches.

I also have to change the batterie so I think I will manage to open the Oasys, but do I have to remove the panels on the right and where to put the drops of wd40 exaktly into/onto the switch ? As far as I understood maybe I also could reach the enter switch without removing the circuits/panels? Thanks in advance and

best regards
SoulBe

[media-igor]

How to send?