Easiest way to manage samples?

80salife · Post by **80salife** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:12 pm

Hi,

in the last months my samples are raising too much. And many samples I have no use for it...

Most Times I downloaded packages ( Like UBER; D-50, Choirs etc.)and I copy the whole folder to my internal SSD and stream them. Now I am at the end of my capacity and I have to manage my samples...

The best could be I create a own folder called "Samples 80s" and in there are only samples I need, and stream it from my internal SSD...

What is the easiest/fastest way to manage all samples and create my own folder? Maybe the best on PC.

80salife · Post by **80salife** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:23 am

Nobody any suggestions?

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:35 am

Is it your SSD or your RAM which is full, or both?

80salife · Post by **80salife** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:27 pm

Stratario · Post by **Stratario** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:06 pm

I would start a new set with empty RAM and load the old samples that you already have in your existing set via the user KSC and use the append option. It would take very little RAM space and all the old samples will be read directly from the SSD. You would still have almost all the capacity of the RAm to start loading new samples.

Regards,

Fred

Stratario · Post by **Stratario** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:09 pm

Forget to say that you can do a Save All for the new set and next time you load this new set all the new samples you have put into it will be loaded as well as all the samples from the old set will be automatically loaded by its user KSC file.

ahutnick · Post by **ahutnick** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:00 pm

Does your Kronos have 3GB of RAM?

80salife · Post by **80salife** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:39 pm

3GB Ram

80salife · Post by **80salife** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:41 pm

Stratario wrote:I would start a new set with empty RAM and load the old samples that you already have in your existing set via the user KSC and use the append option. It would take very little RAM space and all the old samples will be read directly from the SSD. You would still have almost all the capacity of the RAm to start loading new samples.

Regards,

Fred

unfortunately not

80salife · Post by **80salife** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:14 pm

any idea?

media-igor · Post by **media-igor** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:02 pm

80salife wrote:any idea?

I also had to solve the problem of shortage of RAM and the number of banks under the program.

I have done so:
- Made library of sounds (programs).
separately:
00 - keyboard
01 - Organ
02 - Bell & Mallet
03 - Strings
04 - Vocal & Airy
........
15 - Drums

(around 6,500 programs)

There is also the working directory, where I loaded the necessary programs and samples. When loading the working directory - a lot of free banking and RAM

AdDeRoo · Post by **AdDeRoo** » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:56 pm

In my experience there are two ways to create a Best of Sample Set:

1st method: empty your sample memory. Load the individual programs you like and use the "Load the Missing Samples" option which is now available. This will only load what you need. Upon finishing, save your sample set and your PCG, and put the _Userbank.KSC in the Autoload

2ns method: if you study the KSC files in a simple text editor such as Notepad you'll see that every multisample has a fixed address. You can easily combine all those Multisample references and save them into a new _Userbank.KSC and .KSC file and you'll arrive at the same result as under 1. It only requires knowing which multisample is used by which program. Method 1 does this automatically for you

Like this I have create a Best of Sample set combining bits and pieces of many libraries available right now

Hope this helps

media-igor · Post by **media-igor** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:41 am

AdDeRoo wrote:In my experience there are two ways to create a Best of Sample Set:

1st method: empty your sample memory. Load the individual programs you like and use the "Load the Missing Samples" option which is now available. This will only load what you need. Upon finishing, save your sample set and your PCG, and put the _Userbank.KSC in the Autoload

2ns method: if you study the KSC files in a simple text editor such as Notepad you'll see that every multisample has a fixed address. You can easily combine all those Multisample references and save them into a new _Userbank.KSC and .KSC file and you'll arrive at the same result as under 1. It only requires knowing which multisample is used by which program. Method 1 does this automatically for you

Like this I have create a Best of Sample set combining bits and pieces of many libraries available right now

Hope this helps

I also often use the method № 1. However, not always it turns correctly save the result. Later I'll try to show how conservation can anybody be able to explain why it is impossible to save all correctly.

AdDeRoo · Post by **AdDeRoo** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:13 am

Just to add to my previous post. If you would open a KSC with a text editor, you would see that the structure is very easy.

So in case of individual samples not loading properly with method 1, see which MS are used by the specific program, look in the original KSC of that sample collection, and copy over the respective lines. Below 2 MS from the EXs19 library for example, which you can use only and ignore the other EXS19 ones

#>EXS18.MS89.1.0.EXs79 Evolution 1 -L
#>EXS18.MS90.1.0.EXs79 Evolution 1 -R
#>EXS18.MS95.1.0.EXs79 Bass 4 -L
#>EXS18.MS96.1.0.EXs79 Bass 4 -R
#>Bank18.117.0.EXs19 KApro's Private Collection

Make and keep a backup though, and copy/paste carefully not to trigger syntax mistakes

Hope this helps

media-igor · Post by **media-igor** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:37 am

AdDeRoo wrote:Just to add to my previous post. If you would open a KSC with a text editor, you would see that the structure is very easy.

So in case of individual samples not loading properly with method 1, see which MS are used by the specific program, look in the original KSC of that sample collection, and copy over the respective lines. Below 2 MS from the EXs19 library for example, which you can use only and ignore the other EXS19 ones

#>EXS18.MS89.1.0.EXs79 Evolution 1 -L
#>EXS18.MS90.1.0.EXs79 Evolution 1 -R
#>EXS18.MS95.1.0.EXs79 Bass 4 -L
#>EXS18.MS96.1.0.EXs79 Bass 4 -R
#>Bank18.117.0.EXs19 KApro's Private Collection

Make and keep a backup though, and copy/paste carefully not to trigger syntax mistakes

Hope this helps

The structure seems clear. But the syntax I generally not know, so do not tried to edit a file.