New sound libraries: Kelfar EXs95 and KARO EXs66 & EXs69

Ksynth · Post by **Ksynth** » Sun May 26, 2013 2:54 pm

SanderXpander wrote:I wouldn't call myself rich, but I generate significant income with my music, I can support myself from it. I wouldn't really use sample based sounds from the Kronos in the studio at all. While some of the sounds are quite good, Ivory and Kontakt in my favorite DAW will always beat them for flexibility, sound quality and ease of use.
Again, just talking about my situation and you're right that I may not be part of the target audience. It just seems strange to me. I have and use a large variety of gear, I do a lot of different things within the music industry and I make my money from it. If I'm not the target audience they're either not aiming for pros or just making a bad judgment.

Let's hope they don't offer some 'cut down' versions at a lower price. They will have missed the point I think.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun May 26, 2013 4:09 pm

SanderXpander wrote:I wouldn't call myself rich, but I generate significant income with my music, I can support myself from it. I wouldn't really use sample based sounds from the Kronos in the studio at all. While some of the sounds are quite good, Ivory and Kontakt in my favorite DAW will always beat them for flexibility, sound quality and ease of use.
Again, just talking about my situation and you're right that I may not be part of the target audience. It just seems strange to me. I have and use a large variety of gear, I do a lot of different things within the music industry and I make my money from it. If I'm not the target audience they're either not aiming for pros or just making a bad judgment.

you are an accomplished and knowledeable musician, without any doubt.

I don't think the folks at Korg are crazy. They don't invest the time and effort into a product unless they see some potential. They do make mistakes like any other business. Failure is a part of business.

I have my own online business and belong to various seller FB groups. We are always sharing how customers pay insane high prices for stuff. For example, I sold a two book set for $350 last week. This was not a 100 yr old collectible, either.

To sell and get high prices is common here in the US. I am frugal so I am constantly surprised what people pay for stuff.

Saxifraga · Post by **Saxifraga** » Sun May 26, 2013 7:24 pm

I find that 249$ price tag for EXs69 "Auf geht's Buam!" real good!
It guarantees (I hope) that nobody will buy this "Volksmusik" crap.
I hate german Volksmusik with heart and brain.

ashboe · Post by **ashboe** » Mon May 27, 2013 9:00 am

I'm happy to add my twopenny worth...I absolutely agree that these sounds are too expensive. I would be interested to know how many sets have been purchased. I would love to have some of these sounds, but not at the prices they currently are at. Don't they know about the recession?

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Mon May 27, 2013 9:59 am

Saxifraga wrote:I find that 249$ price tag for EXs69 "Auf geht's Buam!" real good!
It guarantees (I hope) that nobody will buy this "Volksmusik" crap.
I hate german Volksmusik with heart and brain.

Heute Abend Hab Ich Kopfweh is a great song! :p

cobi · Post by **cobi** » Mon May 27, 2013 10:27 am

These sounds are far too expensive.

If I could get them for 49$ each I would buy some from time to time only to play around with them even if I do not really need them or use them in a productive way.

I think a large part of the music industry subsists on the purchases by hobbyists and amateurs. Since the prices of the sounds contain no material costs and the sounds could be distributed for no costs this pricing policy is hard to understand.

cobi

metallo · Post by **metallo** » Mon May 27, 2013 10:34 am

Big kudos to clavia for this, expensive instruments, that's true, but huge free official sample libraries very often updated.

Corgy · Post by **Corgy** » Mon May 27, 2013 12:59 pm

Reading all this makes me feel that I was not alone thinking the price tags of Kronos sounds are quite high.

I have often considered to get the one or the other extension. But when I compare all this to my NI-Komplete and some of the instruments that I purchased for NI-Kontakt additionally, I had the impression to get more for the money this way.

I love to jam with the Kronos all day and playing life ... but if it goes to recording in a DAW I find it much more convenient to draw on my plug-in library rather than to fiddle around with the Kronos in the DAW environment.

So when I needed some good strings, an orchestra, some brass etc. I extended my plug-in sound libraries rather than the Kronos.

Saxifraga · Post by **Saxifraga** » Mon May 27, 2013 5:10 pm

SanderXpander wrote:
Saxifraga wrote: I hate german Volksmusik with heart and brain.
Heute Abend Hab Ich Kopfweh is a great song! :p

lol That one is nice! I have to admit: It depends on the circumstances.

neomad · Post by **neomad** » Thu May 30, 2013 10:24 am

Extremely expensive. But the positive point is : Dan is alive even if he refuse to answer emails and listen users suggestions or complains !

I would like to have more interventions talking about unsolved bugs, new improvements at OS level, etc.

But focus now seems to be sell sound libraries. Good luck !

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Fri May 31, 2013 5:12 pm

The first roadblock to me is the idea they are tied to the machine. That is just such a problematic part of this I can't imagine ever putting much money in that direction. THE KRS 04, 05 made sense to me at < $50, but a more substantial investment seems dangerous.
When the Kronos Extreme (or whatever) shows up in a couple years and is compatible with everything I have done with this machine, I don't want to think buying the new one means losing hundreds of dollars in sounds locked to my current Kronos.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Fri May 31, 2013 8:55 pm

neomad wrote:Extremely expensive. But the positive point is : Dan is alive even if he refuse to answer emails and listen users suggestions or complains !

I would like to have more interventions talking about unsolved bugs, new improvements at OS level, etc.

But focus now seems to be sell sound libraries. Good luck !

cheap shot of the day.

blinkofanI · Post by **blinkofanI** » Fri May 31, 2013 11:50 pm

metallo wrote:Big kudos to clavia for this, expensive instruments, that's true, but huge free official sample libraries very often updated.

Did anybody ever calculated the total of Gb of free sounds/samples on the Clavia web site+ stock Nord synth compared with what comes with a stock Kronos? Not sure the Clavia customer is on the winning side... Just sayin'. We're only talking numbers here, not quality, which is subjective.

Blink

blinkofanI · Post by **blinkofanI** » Fri May 31, 2013 11:58 pm

ed_f wrote:The first roadblock to me is the idea they are tied to the machine. That is just such a problematic part of this I can't imagine ever putting much money in that direction. THE KRS 04, 05 made sense to me at < $50, but a more substantial investment seems dangerous.
When the Kronos Extreme (or whatever) shows up in a couple years and is compatible with everything I have done with this machine, I don't want to think buying the new one means losing hundreds of dollars in sounds locked to my current Kronos.

Are you telling me it would be the first time you loose money when selling a piece of gear????

Blink

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:27 am

I have both lost money, made money and broke even but in this case it isn't so much that I will lose it but that I can spend similar amounts of money for something that will be of much more value, soft synths, for a much longer period of time.

I really like what I hear of legendary strings but for the $250 I would rather build up my soft synths.