Odd request: Can I make a sound for you; Kronos

enigmahack · Post by **enigmahack** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:15 pm

Derek Cook wrote: Sorry, I never got back to you on the Shine On lead, but you can scrub that one, as I got to the point where I now think the Kronos exceeds the Nord G2 patch that I was using.

Cool! Consider it scrubbed

Thanks for letting me know

Polkahero · Post by **Polkahero** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:20 pm

Bart S. wrote:Hi enigmahack,
thank you for your great sounds Can you replicate the original Bon Jovi - Runaway sound? Til now, I did not manage to let it sound exactly like the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r47F6W7oewM

Best regards
Bart

Surprised this sound isn't already lurking in a stock Kronos or it wasn't included in the new famous sounds bank!

enigmahack · Post by **enigmahack** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:44 am

roundand wrote:Wow, that's really impressive work.

What about Coldplay's "A Sky Full of Stars"? That would be really nice, including the filtering.

Here's the sample - I only did the intro with the piano and synths, but I didn't know how much you needed. This is a good start though.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/490 ... Enigma.mp3

The PCG is here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/490 ... lStars.PCG

The chords are all assigned to the pads too (If you have an Oasys, it should be compatible, otherwise if you have the Korg NanoPad 2 then this is assigned to the first 6 upper pads which will trigger the chords as shown in the example.

That said, the filter is on knob 5, the Piano is on Slider 1 and the Power synth is on Slider 2.

In the demo, excuse the mis-triggers. My NanoPad is acting up and I'm getting it replaced, just waiting for the store to get a new one in that doesn't misbehave.

Enjoy!

roundand · Post by **roundand** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:35 am

Sounds great, thanks a lot!

John_O · Post by **John_O** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:55 pm

Could you do the into combi to Shine On.... This is the only song that I do of PF's. Or could you point me in the right direction for trying to do it myself. Thanks for all you do!

enigmahack · Post by **enigmahack** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:50 pm

John_O wrote:Could you do the into combi to Shine On.... This is the only song that I do of PF's. Or could you point me in the right direction for trying to do it myself. Thanks for all you do!

Which part? The Intro? The whole song? (This would be more than 1 Combi)

Andreuz · Post by **Andreuz** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:59 pm

Hello enigmahack-

I must say... your ability and talent to re-create & program these sounds are truly amazing! Thanks for all your hard work and efforts.

I have a sound that I have been trying to re-create for many years and never got it right. It is the intro sound from the song "Only the Lonely" by "the Motels" (not Roy Orbison). You still hear this big hit on the radio today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPTELylZ1s

This unique sound has percussion, organ, a hint of electric piano and some very interesting harmonic sounds.

Fantastic story: A few years back, I actually contacted the Marty Jourard, the keyboard player for The Motels. He told me he created this sound on a Prophet 5. Unfortunately, Marty lost all his notes and settings that it took him hours and hours to develop this unique sound. He also said that at some point later on in his career (he needed the sound again probably for some special event), so he hired an engineer to re-create it, but was just never the same.

Can you please see what you can do to re-create it? That would be totally awesome!

Thanks,
Andreuz

John_O · Post by **John_O** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:00 am

enigmahack wrote:
John_O wrote:Could you do the into combi to Shine On.... This is the only song that I do of PF's. Or could you point me in the right direction for trying to do it myself. Thanks for all you do!

Which part? The Intro? The whole song? (This would be more than 1 Combi)

Just the intro, up to the part of the guitar solo. Thanks in advance.

Derek Cook · Post by **Derek Cook** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:25 pm

enigmahack wrote:
John_O wrote:Could you do the into combi to Shine On.... This is the only song that I do of PF's. Or could you point me in the right direction for trying to do it myself. Thanks for all you do!

Which part? The Intro? The whole song? (This would be more than 1 Combi)

Yes, I use four combis
1) Intro - pad and lead
2) Dual Hammond (upper and lower with lower on my EX5 - it's daft with the CX3 that you can have dual manual, but only from the Kronos keyboard, so you need two CX3's, one for each manual)
3) Hammond and lead
4) Outro (same as intro actually; can't remember why I didn't just reference the intro!)

So three then.

I'll be happy to share the sounds I've made, but can't share the intro pad as that comes from a commercial library (the Pink Floyd Analogy)

Derek Cook · Post by **Derek Cook** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:29 pm

Andreuz wrote:Hello enigmahack-

I must say... your ability and talent to re-create & program these sounds are truly amazing! Thanks for all your hard work and efforts.

I have a sound that I have been trying to re-create for many years and never got it right. It is the intro sound from the song "Only the Lonely" by "the Motels" (not Roy Orbison). You still hear this big hit on the radio today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPTELylZ1s

This unique sound has percussion, organ, a hint of electric piano and some very interesting harmonic sounds.

Fantastic story: A few years back, I actually contacted the Marty Jourard, the keyboard player for The Motels. He told me he created this sound on a Prophet 5. Unfortunately, Marty lost all his notes and settings that it took him hours and hours to develop this unique sound. He also said that at some point later on in his career (he needed the sound again probably for some special event), so he hired an engineer to re-create it, but was just never the same.

Can you please see what you can do to re-create it? That would be totally awesome!

Thanks,
Andreuz

If it was hard to recreate on a Prophet by a seasoned hand, then it probably involved poly-mod which by all accounts was pretty unpredictable. My own experience of that is "second hand" with the Arturia P5 VST. I was trying to recreate the intro synth sound of Kim Karnes' Betty Davies Eyes, which evidence on the 'net pointed towards poly-mod being a key feature. It took me ages to get something close to it, but I can't say I 100% nailed it, which may or may not have been due to me using a fascimile of the Prophet, but I found that ven small adjustments of the parameters could cause big differences.

enigmahack · Post by **enigmahack** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:31 pm

Derek Cook wrote:
Yes, I use four combis
1) Intro - pad and lead
2) Dual Hammond (upper and lower with lower on my EX5 - it's daft with the CX3 that you can have dual manual, but only from the Kronos keyboard, so you need two CX3's, one for each manual)
3) Hammond and lead
4) Outro (same as intro actually)

I'll be happy to share the sounds I've made, but can't share the intro pad as that comes from a commercial library (the Pink Floyd Analogy)

Derek, that would be awesome. By doing that, I could focus my energy on just the opening pad sound, and save me a bunch of work.

They might not appreciate it, but *I* definitely would haha

Andreuz · Post by **Andreuz** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:48 pm

enigmahack-
Derek-

I purchased Arturia P5 VST a few years ago just to see if I could emulate this sound... and could not even come close to this sound. But then again, I am not a programmer. My guess is that Marty Jourard, probably layered a patch from the Prophet 5 on top of some other synth via midi... but what do I know.

I was just asking if it was possible to re-create this sound on the Kronos....or a least come somewhat close.

If you think it's a lot of trouble, don't sweat it. I was just assuming you guys liked the challenge... and hence, the reason you started this thread.

I think everyone appreciates what you have done! Keep up the great work.
Andreuz

enigmahack · Post by **enigmahack** » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:23 am

Andreuz wrote: I was just asking if it was possible to re-create this sound on the Kronos....or a least come somewhat close.

If you think it's a lot of trouble, don't sweat it. I was just assuming you guys liked the challenge... and hence, the reason you started this thread.
Andreuz

That's precisely the point. I aim to get it as close as possible, regardless of how "tough" it might be

Andreuz · Post by **Andreuz** » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:36 am

enigmahack wrote:
Andreuz wrote: I was just asking if it was possible to re-create this sound on the Kronos....or a least come somewhat close.

If you think it's a lot of trouble, don't sweat it. I was just assuming you guys liked the challenge... and hence, the reason you started this thread.
Andreuz
That's precisely the point. I aim to get it as close as possible, regardless of how "tough" it might be

enigmahack-

Wow... I like that attitude. I have the same attitude towards my regular job. I wish more people these days would follow this outlook.

thanks a lot in advance,
Andreuz

Andreuz · Post by **Andreuz** » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:47 am

enigmahack wrote:
Andreuz wrote: I was just asking if it was possible to re-create this sound on the Kronos....or a least come somewhat close.

If you think it's a lot of trouble, don't sweat it. I was just assuming you guys liked the challenge... and hence, the reason you started this thread.
Andreuz
That's precisely the point. I aim to get it as close as possible, regardless of how "tough" it might be

This might help you... Knowing how to play the song might help with the harmonics. Here is a link of some guy playing the song. Although he is playing it correctly, the sound is missing percussion & other key ingredients that the original sound has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7zlL5Rcz00