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Step Edit Tied Notes ClusterF

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:31 pm
by Ted3000
I awoke with a pattern idea.

A nice chord - 3 note triad, tied across all steps of a 2 bar pattern.
On the first beat of the second bar, the chord would change while tied.
Glide would make the new notes slide into place.
Pumper effect would duck the volume a bit on the kicks.
A lowpass could be manually tweaked.
No envelopes.
Perhaps a subtle, shallow LFO controlling pitch.

To review: 2 parts: Chord and kick. Lowpass, small pitch mod via triangle LFO, and the pumper insert.

Wow.

First of all, editing the chord change was nearly impossible. With tied steps, all tied notes are affected when you step edit pitches. Even changing the scale type (minor, chromatic, etc) was changing the notes I could enter in step mode with the data knob. (I thought scales only snapped keyed presses from pad or external keyboard into the correct note fr the scale...)

Also, even though all steps were tied, only one note would tie while the rest of the notes in the chord retriggered on each step.

The tied note from the chord - the highest note - got stuck - I had to change patterns. But it would get stuck every time. Classic MIDI panic button would have helped.

The DSP load from just 2 parts was too much for the machine. The kick drum would cut short and get clicky. I now wonder if the tied-yet-retriggered chord notes were cutting in and out for a lack of power, and not some weird sequencer bug...

In short, I could not accomplish my simple 2 part pattern. Kick with a glide tied chord with a simple note change on the second bar. I might be able to get closer by manually playing notes and not step editing them.

If anyone can attempt a pattern like this I'd be curious about the result and if you found it difficult.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:51 am
by robotunes
Don't tie the first chord to the second chord, then use glide. See if that works.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:40 pm
by Ted3000
Yep, that worked! Last steps of bars untied.

Still not sure why I can't get a smooth legato chord change with all tied steps without an insane bugout or a step edit nightmare. Oh well!

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:38 am
by 4kb
What you should try is to lay out your chord progression first, then tie the notes together, but only after note editing is done. The new feature from the current firmware update which edits tied notes is both a blessing and a curse, but I find if you just edit things then tie them together you should be fine. (at least that's how it works for me)

Hope that helps
-4kb