I'm considering getting an esx SD or a Electribe 2 (dunno if sampler or the synth one).
Any advice? Do anybody use this mix?
Greetings.
EMX + ESX or... EMX + Electribe2?
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FranciscoArellano
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They both have some strengths and weaknesses. Personally I was a bit disappointed by the new electribes and have not purchased either of them. I own both an EMX and ESX already,plus many other synths and drum machines, and didn't feel they would add much.
I did try them out at a friends house, but didn't spend a ton of time with them, so factor that in when considering my opinion. The biggest positive about the new sampler VS ESX is you can do keyboard parts and slice parts on any of the 16 pads. some disappointments for me were no stretch parts, limited fx parameter controls, voice stealing, 4 bar patterns. oh, and no more sample memory than old ESX and samples have to be exported and loaded every time (memory is volatile, not sure why they went that way when ESX was non volatile, perhaps it has to do with being polyphonic? I dunno...
It would e a tough call if I didn't already own an ESX, and theres so much other gear out there I have to be more picky these days...
I did try them out at a friends house, but didn't spend a ton of time with them, so factor that in when considering my opinion. The biggest positive about the new sampler VS ESX is you can do keyboard parts and slice parts on any of the 16 pads. some disappointments for me were no stretch parts, limited fx parameter controls, voice stealing, 4 bar patterns. oh, and no more sample memory than old ESX and samples have to be exported and loaded every time (memory is volatile, not sure why they went that way when ESX was non volatile, perhaps it has to do with being polyphonic? I dunno...
It would e a tough call if I didn't already own an ESX, and theres so much other gear out there I have to be more picky these days...
let me also add that the EMX and ESX work well together, you can setup so patterns switch on both from one unit as master, so you can build songs with a01 on both machines then a02 then a06 and switch from one unit.
you could do this on e2's as well but if you use 8 bar patterns on the EMX, you will have to repeat the pattern on e2, which could work depending on how much variation you like.
Also should be next to no learning curve to go to ESX.
If you like the EMX I can recomend the ESX without reservation. I'd recomend you try out the E2 and E2S before you buy, or buy from where you can return it, because it is a very different beast and you may or may not click with it.
you could do this on e2's as well but if you use 8 bar patterns on the EMX, you will have to repeat the pattern on e2, which could work depending on how much variation you like.
Also should be next to no learning curve to go to ESX.
If you like the EMX I can recomend the ESX without reservation. I'd recomend you try out the E2 and E2S before you buy, or buy from where you can return it, because it is a very different beast and you may or may not click with it.
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FranciscoArellano
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Thank you for your answers. Actually I'm using an emx, kp3+ and roland system 1. One of the things that makes me want to get the e2s its just I can control poliphony for the system 1. Can that be done with e2s?
Also, I have seen many videos of people just using emx1 and esx1 and they work wonderful together.
I could get the esx and another hardware sequencer for the system 1. Though I'm just getting in the world of grooveboxes and my intention is to keep everything on hardware to perform live mostly.
Here are some of the songs I made some months ago with emx1, mostly ambient:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSc4KoDE7gI only emx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMKSdQboimI emx, system 1 and kp3
and this is more edm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0B8IQ8wYSk
I'm getting into making some edm now... that's why I think a sampler could help me a lot. By the way... Do you know any good hardware to sequence poly parts on the roland system 1?
Greetings!
Also, I have seen many videos of people just using emx1 and esx1 and they work wonderful together.
I could get the esx and another hardware sequencer for the system 1. Though I'm just getting in the world of grooveboxes and my intention is to keep everything on hardware to perform live mostly.
Here are some of the songs I made some months ago with emx1, mostly ambient:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSc4KoDE7gI only emx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMKSdQboimI emx, system 1 and kp3
and this is more edm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0B8IQ8wYSk
I'm getting into making some edm now... that's why I think a sampler could help me a lot. By the way... Do you know any good hardware to sequence poly parts on the roland system 1?
Greetings!
polyphonic hardware sequencers
Hardware with polyphonic sequencers:
Out of production, so used only:
Yamaha RS7000
Yamaha RM1X
EMU command station MP7, XL7,PX7, Proteus 2500 has same sequencer also IIRC
Roland groove boxes MC303, 505, 307, 808, 909, never owned so not sure how good they are for external gear
Every hardware MPC that I know of
Probably others, those are "groovebox" type devices there are of course more linear type devices such as Alexis MMT8, Roland MC 50' yamaha QY 10, etc...
Available new:
Elektron Octatrack
Squarp Pyramid
Sequentix P3
cirklon
Never used any of the ones on the new list,none of them are cheap like the E2, but most of the used ones can be found for the same or less than an new E2. And most of them will run circles around it as a MIDI sequencer since that's what most of them were designed to be from the start.
Oh, and maybe the novation circuit, it's to new I don't know how well it sequences externally.
Me I like the RS7000 and command stations. Both will give you a90's era rompler and the RS has sampling with more memory (fully expanded) than any electribe. The emu ROMpler engine is actually quite deep and has the famous Z-plane filters.
Im sure I missed a few sequencers in the history of MIDI, perhaps even some current ones.
Oh, if you can build your own look at the MidiBox MBSEQ v4.
Out of production, so used only:
Yamaha RS7000
Yamaha RM1X
EMU command station MP7, XL7,PX7, Proteus 2500 has same sequencer also IIRC
Roland groove boxes MC303, 505, 307, 808, 909, never owned so not sure how good they are for external gear
Every hardware MPC that I know of
Probably others, those are "groovebox" type devices there are of course more linear type devices such as Alexis MMT8, Roland MC 50' yamaha QY 10, etc...
Available new:
Elektron Octatrack
Squarp Pyramid
Sequentix P3
cirklon
Never used any of the ones on the new list,none of them are cheap like the E2, but most of the used ones can be found for the same or less than an new E2. And most of them will run circles around it as a MIDI sequencer since that's what most of them were designed to be from the start.
Oh, and maybe the novation circuit, it's to new I don't know how well it sequences externally.
Me I like the RS7000 and command stations. Both will give you a90's era rompler and the RS has sampling with more memory (fully expanded) than any electribe. The emu ROMpler engine is actually quite deep and has the famous Z-plane filters.
Im sure I missed a few sequencers in the history of MIDI, perhaps even some current ones.
Oh, if you can build your own look at the MidiBox MBSEQ v4.