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LZ wrote:More s**t I have to bring out. I could also use a midi solutions box. There are plenty of options that complicate my rig. Instead of using the POD, I could get the pedalboard option or buy a guitar amp. None of that changes the fact that that there is some VERY basic functionality missing that my keyboards from e 80s could do.

Totally get ya there. But then again, you already know I gig with too much gear, so that's not a problem for me . One bonus of my method is that I have a program with the top row of pedals mapped to trigger the Kronos pads - Boom, instant bass pedals.

LZ wrote:More s**t I have to bring out. I could also use a midi solutions box. There are plenty of options that complicate my rig. Instead of using the POD, I could get the pedalboard option or buy a guitar amp. None of that changes the fact that that there is some VERY basic functionality missing that my keyboards from e 80s could do.

I suggested a solution above that doesn't require more hardware.

First time I saw the Montage's super knob, I thought of the Kronos. The "super knob" is a gimmick, because the Kronos or any keyboard with an assignable modulation matrix can do the same thing the super knob can do. You simply assign multiple mod destinations, like OSC level and FX amount and panning, all to the same controller. The super nipple is only 2-dimensional -- clockwise and counterclockwise. The Kronos vector joystick is 4-dimensional -- left, right, up, down -- and is therefore superior to the super nipple.

For your specific issue with the foot pedal:

GLOBAL:
Controllers/Scales tab ==> Foot pedal assign ==> Foot pedal (MIDI CC #04)

Per Program or Combi:
Set whatever parameter you want to control with its Source ==> Foot Pedal.


I just took a Sax and EP Keys combi I have and assigned multiple things to my foot pedal, which now controls FX bass amp volume and bass, MFX delay amount.

Is this the type of thing you want to do with your foot pedal, LZ?

jeebustrain wrote:

LZ wrote:More s**t I have to bring out. I could also use a midi solutions box. There are plenty of options that complicate my rig. Instead of using the POD, I could get the pedalboard option or buy a guitar amp. None of that changes the fact that that there is some VERY basic functionality missing that my keyboards from e 80s could do.

Totally get ya there. But then again, you already know I gig with too much gear, so that's not a problem for me . One bonus of my method is that I have a program with the top row of pedals mapped to trigger the Kronos pads - Boom, instant bass pedals.

I definitely respect the way you've got your setup set up =)

My FCB1010 is integral to my rig. I have it set up to use as bass pedals a la Taurus style (even got the Minitaur for this!), or I switch banks and use it to play the Kronos pads. With the extra 61 controller I have, and with the FCB, I can play live up to three parts at once. Especially useful for No More Tears where I foot dance the keyboard parts while I play the main bass line. And for the middle breakdown with the massive keys, I've got an orchestra mapped out across my controllers. The feet are doing the Tubular bells for the second part, while left hand and right hands do various melodies and chords. Fun stuff.

You mentioned earlier you set a couple footswitches on your FCB to use as sustain pedals, I'm presuming for other MIDI channels so you have separate control over sustain. That's on my to do list as well.

psionic311 wrote:

LZ wrote:More s**t I have to bring out. I could also use a midi solutions box. There are plenty of options that complicate my rig. Instead of using the POD, I could get the pedalboard option or buy a guitar amp. None of that changes the fact that that there is some VERY basic functionality missing that my keyboards from e 80s could do.

I suggested a solution above that doesn't require more hardware.

First time I saw the Montage's super knob, I thought of the Kronos. The "super knob" is a gimmick, because the Kronos or any keyboard with an assignable modulation matrix can do the same thing the super knob can do. You simply assign multiple mod destinations, like OSC level and FX amount and panning, all to the same controller. The super nipple is only 2-dimensional -- clockwise and counterclockwise. The Kronos vector joystick is 4-dimensional -- left, right, up, down -- and is therefore superior to the super nipple.

For your specific issue with the foot pedal:

GLOBAL:
Controllers/Scales tab ==> Foot pedal assign ==> Foot pedal (MIDI CC #04)

Per Program or Combi:
Set whatever parameter you want to control with its Source ==> Foot Pedal.


I just took a Sax and EP Keys combi I have and assigned multiple things to my foot pedal, which now controls FX bass amp volume and bass, MFX delay amount.

Is this the type of thing you want to do with your foot pedal, LZ?

I want to use the pedal to transmit different CC's than the global setting to an EXTERNAL device based on patches in my setlist. It's globally set to 4 which is great for all of my organ patches, and I already have plenty of patches where I've set it up to control various other parameters by assigning them to CC#4. That's fine for internal stuff, but doesn't help for external.

psionic311 wrote: You mentioned earlier you set a couple footswitches on your FCB to use as sustain pedals, I'm presuming for other MIDI channels so you have separate control over sustain. That's on my to do list as well.

Yea - the mod I have for it lets me set up sustain and patch change pedals for anything, so I have individual sustain pedals mapped to a couple pieces of gear. It's nice because I have just a single power cable and a USB cable to it right into my rack (the mod added USB midi). I also have one of the pedals permanently set up to toggle the right expression pedal between a volume pedal for my upper keyboard and Joy-Y on the Kronos, so I can use it as a wah pedal.

>That's fine for internal stuff, but doesn't help for external.

Wait, so the mapping to the knob won't work? I thought that will work for external as well?

aron wrote:>That's fine for internal stuff, but doesn't help for external.

Wait, so the mapping to the knob won't work? I thought that will work for external as well?

I was referring to the suggestion that I quoted, not yours.

As for your suggestion, that would require that I go back through every single program and combi that responds to foot pedal, including every single organ patch, and change it to respond to knob 8 instead of foot pedal.

Yes, which is perfect for an editor to do - loop through all the patches and do the assignment! Michael???

LZ wrote:As for your suggestion, that would require that I go back through every single program and combi that responds to foot pedal, including every single organ patch, and change it to respond to knob 8 instead of foot pedal.

And if Korg updated the software to provide all sorts of new CC routing possibilities, wouldn't you still have to go through each patch and reprogram it? So what's the difference?

No, not at all....as long as default was to use the global setting, but you could override it. Just like the audio routing. You can set a global default for the inputs, but override it in a patch/combi/song. 95% of what I need to do is the default foot pedal assigned to CC4 which works great for all of the CX3 stuff as well as anything I set up internally to respond to that. I'd like to creat about a 1/2 dozen combis that are designed to control my guitar processor.....some with pedal for volume, some pedal for Wah, etc. same with the buttons and sustain pedals. It would be great if per combi I could reassign the sustain to mute my guitar when I step on it so I can switch to keys without having to roll down my guitar vol pot or have the strings ringing. Pedal to guitar vol can be used for that as well, but sustain for mute/mute would be slick. Some songs I'm playing keys for the whole thing then having to quickly switch to r. Guitar for a solo and back. I want to use set list mode whether I'm playing keys or guitar and have everything I need. The pod midi implementation is decent enough if the Kronos were just a bit more flexible.

I'm confused does the knob assign work or not? If it does, then you are set right?

psionic311 wrote: First time I saw the Montage's super knob, I thought of the Kronos. The "super knob" is a gimmick, because the Kronos or any keyboard with an assignable modulation matrix can do the same thing the super knob can do. You simply assign multiple mod destinations, like OSC level and FX amount and panning, all to the same controller. The super nipple is only 2-dimensional -- clockwise and counterclockwise. The Kronos vector joystick is 4-dimensional -- left, right, up, down -- and is therefore superior to the super nipple.

sorry, but super nipple(s) made me laugh... I guess Im childish like that.

jeebustrain wrote:I second the pedal recommendation. I am using a modified Behringer FCB1010 (with the LG-FCB board) and I have almost infinite flexibility when it comes to assigning the pedals. The software utility makes designing custom setups a breeze.

I think the FCB1010 is a nice piece of gear with the Kronos. All kinds of crazy things I have come up with over the years.