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OK i was reading recently but i was thinking that maybe that problem will not touch me cause i am not guru programming... and not make so much complex combi... with arpeggio.. etc.

I feel like i to all what i found.:
Global.:
Mute Mode = Set to Live (really for me dose not matter studio/live) the same problem

PerfMeter on that combi sound when i don't play show.:
Exi Fixed 8% Voices 0%
Voice stealing = 0% Number of Voice =0%
Effect = 16-20%
Smooth Transition iddle.

On effect i have.:
IFX = 7 insert slot busy and 5 empty.
MFX = 2 slot busy
NO TFX

In combi.:
1/2/3/4/5 (only 5 sound in the same time)
Dynamic FM D000/A021 Head over head piano/UC026 - TX Mezzo EP/B013 Vintage Bell wins/C100 Breathing Ocean synth.

Only 5 from 16... No arp, no karma module ON, No drums.

The rest slot from 6 to 16 is mute off.
Cause theortically Global mode mute in Live should save polyphony when mute option is on on the instrument that i don't use.

In Timbre Parameter i set Priority to 4 patches from /5.
Before no one have this option, and i really can't se dramatically different.

I know i should no priority to all sound. (all mean nothing priority).
But really all sound from that is important.
Even i can hear that this priority work.

I also check i menu of that combi Exlusive Solo... nothing change still the same problem ?....
Any Idea ?

Also what could be help to identify my problem is that most of time i play five to six note together. in almost the same time...

Really annoying for instrument from about 3000$...
BTW it's Kronos 3 from 2016.
3G RAM/ LAST OS...
any modification by me inside kronos... ?
Any help ?:)

Some Test.:
Look at Performance.:
1)
When i play even melodically 10 notes play fast but melody and keep notes - the problem is not happened.
No stealing voices = i mean there is max to 24

2)
When i play together harmonically.: (quarter in tempo 120 )
3 notes = stealing is up to 15-20

The same 3 notes but play (eight in tempo 120) so it's to times faster... then previous stilling is up to 40-50

When i add one more notes and play eight in tempo 120 - the stealing is going from time to time to max. It's pumping to red

What can i do ?
It's a problem CPU/HDD ?

Amazing this kind of issue with half effect, only 5 patches... in this kind of instrument...

Really disappoint... How fast i can overload that

its a little hard to follow everything.

Voice stealing into the red zone does not really bother me.

You don't say if you are getting clicks and pops and muted programs. If you are not experiencing this, I think you are ok

No clicks, no pops....
Just i play eight notes in tempo 128 together, and from time to time that i hit sound change... Change because is overload.
when i mute 3 sound from 5... So example i have two and play that... the isssue is not happened...

Are you using another keyboard, or is it only the Kronos alone?

If you are connected to another using MIDI, or using USB, make sure you don't have a MIDI loop... Try setting keyboard local MIDI off.

Also, be aware that using certain EXi instruments (STR-1, double AL-1, MS20ex, MOD7) takes up more CPU resources.

Finally, in Global mode, check that Auto Optimize RAM is set.

1) No another keyboard is connected.
2) If i remember i have the auto optimise Ram ( will check it on more time ,today on concert).
3) Be aware, yes... Finally i did workaround...
Like i say all sound for me was important, but i choose 3 for most important.
3 patches play all zone/2 play only in lower octave... = 5 patches

So now when i play eight in tempo 120 (3 notes together). The overload never happened more.
Still voicing around 40-60 never go to max. And i don't hear changing sound...

But how i say it's workaround...

Any way still love this instrument for flexibility, and what i can do... But i don't like, like probably everyone limit. (5 patches/ 7 insert fx, 2 mfx) and overload... no arp, no drum... and overlord...

You say all 5 patches are important.
Set priority to all five patches/timbres anyway.

I had issues with a combi and noticed the bass patch was causeing problems. I had to select a different bass and problem went away. Some of the bass sounds use a lot.
I once had similar problems with a very deep bass slow synth but that was cracking the signal and stealing some notes.

Try changing the patches one at a time. Change the FM sound to a basic sound and see if the problem is still there. Do that to each patch and see if you find one that may be causeing overloading.
If that doesnt work, then copy the combi to an empty slot for testing and change all patches to Initialized program. Not HD1 piano.. Change to Initialized piano and see if problem goes away with 5 initialized pianos.
Then you can bring back your sounds one by one and try to find which one brings the problem.

This may not work but it is worth trying because i had a combi that did not like a bass patch i put in, so i put in a less powerful bass and it solved the problem.
If its the patches causing problem, I suspect the Dyna FM patch because i had to change an FM electric piano out once before.

Also try setting up the combi in sequencer mode and setting track priority to all 5 patches used or all patches used.

This note stealing sounds bad for such an expensive and quality instrument but you have to remember it is at the cutting edge of sound quality and Gbyte size of some patches. Some sounds are dealing huge Gb of samples to play and the processor is up to par, but you have to ration when you start stacking them to play all together in combi.

When you set up a combi in sequencer, the track priority behaves differently than timbre priority in Combi mode. You will have to set priority to all used tracks in sequencer mode for recording and sometimes that may be the case in combi mode even though recordng is not involved.

If this doesnt help, i will be very interested in learning what solution you find so i can use it some day if i need. I hope its not a system glitch. Keep us updated here.

Different engines have different CPU needs. For instance MOD7 is pretty heavy so it's possible to max out even with just one program and busy playing. HD1, PolySix and SGX2 by comparison are pretty light. You say you're only using five sounds out of sixteen but honestly a layer of five sounds where all five are always sounding at the same time sounds pretty thick to me. So your options are fewer layered timbres or substituting "expensive" engines for simpler ones. :

+1 Sander

You really should take into account the fact that the different engines have different polyphony limitations.
So, if you layer several sounds of the same highly polyphony reliant engine, you will quickly face polyphony limitation.

Also try to turn off the perf meters display in Global mode. It won't solve all your problems but will save a small amount of polyphony.

I have had this issue from the beginning. The only real fix is a second Kronos, which I tried after getting my K2-88 to replace the original K61.

My problem is not unexpected because of the multi track sequences that I perform a live part with performing in a 100% sequenced duo/trio. I am now considering either a NORD Electro 4/5, or a Hammond SK1 to use with the K2-88 for most of the live parts. Leaning towards the NORD because it has respectable acoustic pianos.

I here tried everything, but still here the drop-outs.

I had the same problem and i bought the NORD ELECTRO 5D and the Silver Grand is excellent. Very easy to use and all the vintage sounds are very good. Eps. and organs are good. Plus it is very light and easy to move. Good luck in your decision.

What can i say... Thank you all for replays...


have to no fight with that... just like all you say... Smart choose pathes.

19naia wrote:You say all 5 patches are important.
Set priority to all five patches/timbres anyway.

Setting Priority for all Timbres is the same as having it off for all Timbres. Read the manual for more info.

If you are still having problems, contact your Korg Distributor. Send them a PCG file and note the Combi that you're working with. TBH it's pretty difficult to figure out what's going on from what you've posted here; more specifics would be helpful, such as Program names, if you're using factory sounds. My first guess is that you are layering some very high-polyphony Programs.