Hi, I have had my Kronos for years, and enjoy playing it so much that I never fully mastered all the technicalities.
So, I have probably an easy question (?)
Program mode.
Drums. For a given drum pattern, can I change 1 instrument to another one? E.g. let's assume patter uses C for snare, and I'd like to route it to G, without affecting other keys used in this drum pattern.
I could probably do it having combimode, and use Karma for drums (not sure though).But anyway, I wonder if it's possible using just program mode and drum pattern.
Thank you in advance for hints,
Rob
Drum - shift/change 1 key only
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That's a whole bunch of different questions rolled into one 
If you use a drum pattern, you cannot "modify" it from within the program. You could create a new drum pattern in sequencer mode, and save that to a user drum pattern location. Alternatively, you could edit the drum kit (although this will then affect other programs using this kit, so you'd be better off copying the kit to an empty drum kit location). With that method you wouldn't be changing the drum pattern but rather the instruments of the drum kit - e.g. the pattern would still be playing your hypothetical "C" for the snare, but you could put a different instrument (cowbell?) under that key.
As Tomto66 said, using Karma you could use the note map function and change the note in the pattern like you asked. This isn't that much different for program or combi mode, though it's probably easiest to set it up in program mode and then copy the program into the combi with its Karma module.
If you use a drum pattern, you cannot "modify" it from within the program. You could create a new drum pattern in sequencer mode, and save that to a user drum pattern location. Alternatively, you could edit the drum kit (although this will then affect other programs using this kit, so you'd be better off copying the kit to an empty drum kit location). With that method you wouldn't be changing the drum pattern but rather the instruments of the drum kit - e.g. the pattern would still be playing your hypothetical "C" for the snare, but you could put a different instrument (cowbell?) under that key.
As Tomto66 said, using Karma you could use the note map function and change the note in the pattern like you asked. This isn't that much different for program or combi mode, though it's probably easiest to set it up in program mode and then copy the program into the combi with its Karma module.
Transpose is fun when in a program mode drum kit.
Transpose of course shifts notes up or down such that a C note can play a G note or any note you choose.
With a drum kit program, it ends up shifting the actual drum kit piece. Such that a snare can shift to a bass kick or tom can shift to a cymbal. But all other note instruments are affected.
*** I am not sure of any way to reconfigure the drum kit sample setup while in any of the performance modes. ***
Drum kits as HD-1 programs can be a bit involved for transpose changes in program ,as the changes are per OSC. So you may have 2 OSC working a multi layer drum kit. Change one transpose setting and the other will need to be done also. Or not, depending on what results you want to create.
Combi mode though, is great for the Transpose effect on Drum programs. You can transpose each timbre separately so that only the one drum timbre changes rather than all timbres. Also transpose inputs can be numeric key inputs for just a quick tap of the numeric keys and it goes direct to the transpose setting you want without a scroll function clatter before getting to the point you want. And another quick tap of numeric keys can bring it back.
And possible to use transpose function together(but not edit at the same time) with whatever works out for you in Karma note mapping. I got some interesting drum fills and breaks to happen while adjusting the note map settings in Karma, just now.
Combi transpose is under timbre parameters.
You can have one Karma pattern run several drum program timbres, and then mute in and out the varied drum timbres, each timbre with the same drum program but with varied transpose settings.
Also 4 karma modules with four different note map settings set to four different drum programs in timbres. But i think that is a waste of Karma modules, considering the other ways to approach it or the need to use karma modules for bass lines or other things. Maybe buy more Karma modules in the software version?
All kinds of stuff that end up making interesting fills and breaks.
I just recorded some realtime Note map changes in karma and then put the resulting midi track in an RPPR pattern slot which can also be used as a drum track. It all plays back as an RPPR pattern now exactly as it did from karma.
Thanks for the Karma Note Mapping tip Tomto66. I am going back into fill and break creation to compliment my preset beats. Been a while since i was inspired to make beats.
Transpose of course shifts notes up or down such that a C note can play a G note or any note you choose.
With a drum kit program, it ends up shifting the actual drum kit piece. Such that a snare can shift to a bass kick or tom can shift to a cymbal. But all other note instruments are affected.
*** I am not sure of any way to reconfigure the drum kit sample setup while in any of the performance modes. ***
Drum kits as HD-1 programs can be a bit involved for transpose changes in program ,as the changes are per OSC. So you may have 2 OSC working a multi layer drum kit. Change one transpose setting and the other will need to be done also. Or not, depending on what results you want to create.
Combi mode though, is great for the Transpose effect on Drum programs. You can transpose each timbre separately so that only the one drum timbre changes rather than all timbres. Also transpose inputs can be numeric key inputs for just a quick tap of the numeric keys and it goes direct to the transpose setting you want without a scroll function clatter before getting to the point you want. And another quick tap of numeric keys can bring it back.
And possible to use transpose function together(but not edit at the same time) with whatever works out for you in Karma note mapping. I got some interesting drum fills and breaks to happen while adjusting the note map settings in Karma, just now.
Combi transpose is under timbre parameters.
You can have one Karma pattern run several drum program timbres, and then mute in and out the varied drum timbres, each timbre with the same drum program but with varied transpose settings.
Also 4 karma modules with four different note map settings set to four different drum programs in timbres. But i think that is a waste of Karma modules, considering the other ways to approach it or the need to use karma modules for bass lines or other things. Maybe buy more Karma modules in the software version?
All kinds of stuff that end up making interesting fills and breaks.
I just recorded some realtime Note map changes in karma and then put the resulting midi track in an RPPR pattern slot which can also be used as a drum track. It all plays back as an RPPR pattern now exactly as it did from karma.
Thanks for the Karma Note Mapping tip Tomto66. I am going back into fill and break creation to compliment my preset beats. Been a while since i was inspired to make beats.
Thank you Tomto and Sander.
Creating a drum pattern in sequencer and saving it as user drum pattern is something that I can use to get what I need.
Thank you 19naia for a long reply. I use transpose for drums quite a lot, mainly in program mode, and that's actually triggered my question. I often get the pattern which I like, EXCEPT I usually feel like to tweak 1 instrument
I'll need to read your reply slowly and experiment some more.
Thank you!!
Creating a drum pattern in sequencer and saving it as user drum pattern is something that I can use to get what I need.
Thank you 19naia for a long reply. I use transpose for drums quite a lot, mainly in program mode, and that's actually triggered my question. I often get the pattern which I like, EXCEPT I usually feel like to tweak 1 instrument
I'll need to read your reply slowly and experiment some more.
Thank you!!
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