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I am pretty sure this can be done, but not really sure how, or what would be the best, most efficient way to do it.

What I want to do is record a group of people singing 16 bars and then assign the recording to be triggered by hitting a key on the Kronos.

This would be used in live performance, so needs to be utilized in real time.

Tia, 4God

You can do this but not really practically in a live setting.

I imagine you'd approach this the same way you assign a sample to a key to play back live. In sampling mode, check out "Save as Multisample."

See page 143 (v3.0.2) of the Operations manual for an extended example.

I am totally lost here. So far I have managed to build combis, use the sliders to control track volume, use a pedal to control track volume, add/edit ifx, change track pitch, do multi-splits on the keyboard, etc. - all basic stuff.

I understand Karma about as well as a two year old understands language. Lol

Have not even attempted to use the sequencer, or record anything.

The Quick Start guide states that I can do the following:
1. Sample audio inputs during playback, and use In‐Track Sampling to automatically create a note event that triggers the sample in the Song.
2. Sample (“rip”) directly from an audio CD

This makes me think I can "somehow" create a sample, record it, and then use a key on the keyboard to trigger it (play it back).

Yes? No? Where do I even start experimenting to learn how to do this?

Sorry for my ignorance. The manuals provided are probably easy for those who are computer savvy. Not very musician friendly however.

You can do this just fine, there are pretty good tutorials in the operation guide and also on YouTube if you prefer video. But if you want to do it "live" and use it right away without music stopping you'll be disappointed I think.

I guess I wasn't very clear in my original post. I want to record several voices singing a 16 bar chorus. This can be done in rehearsal. Then I want to save that in the Kronos and trigger it using one key during performance.

If the chorus occurs four times during the song, I want to just hit that key each time and re-trigger the recording.

Another example would be a one-man band recording harmonies on the chorus and then triggering that recording when needed, rather than recording a whole song and playing along with it. That way you could add the vocal parts as needed. Maybe you want to ad lib and do a chorus twice. No problem, just hit the key again. You could even have a 2nd chorus, with different harmonies triggered by a different key. For that matter, you could bring in a pre-recorded string section on the 3rd chorus with a third key.

I like this idea better than recording a whole song and playing along with it. But honestly I don't even know how to do that. I looked at the Op Guide, but quickly became overwhelmed. I guess I just need to start playing with it. Kind of afraid I'll do something wrong and blow the thing up. I'll check YouTube - thanks so much for the response.

4GodnWV wrote:I am pretty sure this can be done, but not really sure how, or what would be the best, most efficient way to do it.

What I want to do is record a group of people singing 16 bars and then assign the recording to be triggered by hitting a key on the Kronos.

This would be used in live performance, so needs to be utilized in real time.

Tia, 4God

I am not expert but I think using the Kronos as a standalone recording device for that would be difficult.

I would look into some simpler tools like Garage band , find a way to convert recording to a WAV file ( I use audacity )

Then bring in the WAV into the Kronos to play as you like in the SEQ.

That sounds like some work but I have been using WAV files with isolated prerecorded vocal tracks.

16 bar chorus is as doable as your sample time available. Kronos has very long sample time and 16 bar can't be more than a few minutes? Or less?

Sampler would be the easiest but you could use sequencer audio tracks to capture each part of the chorus on its own track and mix it all afterwards with different effects for each part/track and even different pan on each part of the chorus.
Sequencer would allow a more dynamic recorded product and then you can resample that and turn the sample into a program. Sample REC and start in sequencer mode works and then lets you hit Play for the sequencer to run and then that all gets recorded to sampler. Or just do a simple sampler recording without sequencer and make it into a program.

Here is the link to Kronos Sampling and audio recording tutorial. Sampling Audio input and resampling midi/key played sounds.

https://youtu.be/gaRY7SvVTZU

Yes it includes Converting M-sample to a Program that is easy to find in the drop down menu at the top right screen.
You will also need to work in Zoning if you need the keyboard setup to play multiple timbres/tracks on separate keys. Seems you should already know this if you know that you can sample and assign sample to play from one note.

Later, if you want, you can get into Pattern RPPR in Sequencer and have that do loops or various run configurations timed to the measure or beat. Some advantages and disadvantages.
Then Karma has ways of running the sample program for a particular length of time and you could use Software Karma to work out a GE with the right length and form. I found a Karma GE (GE 2045) that will hold a single note out with no Arp action on it -not sure how long- but seems long enough or until i stop it. You can set up trigger and stop to happen in various ways with Karma and so much fun to be had trying out the GE parameters over it all. But yes, it is an effort just to learn Karma before actually getting it to work for you.

All kinds of options to make what you want to happen. 16 bar sample is easy for Kronos to handle. Just keep track of RAM available space as you load it up.

4GodnWV wrote:I am pretty sure this can be done, but not really sure how, or what would be the best, most efficient way to do it.

What I want to do is record a group of people singing 16 bars and then assign the recording to be triggered by hitting a key on the Kronos.

This would be used in live performance, so needs to be utilized in real time.

Tia, 4God

I think there is nothing complicated here.
If you need to start the whole piece with a key on Kronos, then you just need to record it in SEQ mode to one of the audio tracks. Then start it with the START / STOP button.
If you need to run separate parts of your record - different keys on KRONOS, it's a little more complicated. You must break your WAV file into the right parts (for example, in the SoundForge program). Then, in the Sampling mode, assign each WAV segment to a separate key and save it as a new Program. Do not forget to save the Sampling Date. In my opinion, there are textbooks of this process.

What do you mean by play live period with a band? Or with your own tracks?

4GodnWV wrote:I guess I wasn't very clear in my original post. I want to record several voices singing a 16 bar chorus. This can be done in rehearsal. Then I want to save that in the Kronos and trigger it using one key during performance.

If the chorus occurs four times during the song, I want to just hit that key each time and re-trigger the recording.

Another example would be a one-man band recording harmonies on the chorus and then triggering that recording when needed, rather than recording a whole song and playing along with it. That way you could add the vocal parts as needed. Maybe you want to ad lib and do a chorus twice. No problem, just hit the key again. You could even have a 2nd chorus, with different harmonies triggered by a different key. For that matter, you could bring in a pre-recorded string section on the 3rd chorus with a third key.

I like this idea better than recording a whole song and playing along with it. But honestly I don't even know how to do that. I looked at the Op Guide, but quickly became overwhelmed. I guess I just need to start playing with it. Kind of afraid I'll do something wrong and blow the thing up. I'll check YouTube - thanks so much for the response.

you can do this by creating a program for it where you route the samples to separate keys and then hit that key (or through the nanopad if you have one) to activate that sample.

But it's not the strongest point of kronos to be honest. There are much better solutions for that, For instance by adding Ableton Live to your setup for that, or using Garageband on an IPad. Then hookup the iPad through usb to your kronos and open the sample trigger page on garageband, now you have added a complete triggerbased sample system to your kronos where the audio is played by your kronos.

But if you want to do everything in the kronos then you need to create the multisampled programs to activate them.