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lots of Behringer gear!! when will we see an Behringer / ARP clone of 2500 and 2600?
that in a digital form would be cool!!
as well as a clone of the scrittmacher in a lower cost format!!

while we are at it clone of moog modular large format unit!!
like a keith Emmerson lucky man clone!! (you can use that uli!!)
or kelman!!

I just wish the new Behringer gear was all stereo out...
yea it is not true to the old format...
but.....

lol
all I do here in the studio is Left / Right audio for the final product...

cleaner if the gear has this already so I do not have to butcher the sound with some sort of effects unit...

I do use a Behringer fx2000 to get this on the final mix...
but it would be cool to have LR effects built in to the Behringer gear from the factory...

I get that on the roland i7 units as a true sound field....
nice for surround sound ready to go...

yep I am on the edge of my seat!!
just waiting to see what is next!!

iowagold wrote:lots of Behringer gear!! when will we see an Behringer / ARP clone of 2500 and 2600?

This could be an answer : http://www.synthanatomy.com/2019/06/beh ... -2600.html

Liviou2004 wrote:

iowagold wrote:lots of Behringer gear!! when will we see an Behringer / ARP clone of 2500 and 2600?

This could be an answer : http://www.synthanatomy.com/2019/06/beh ... -2600.html

Looks like Behringer are single handedly trying to bring back the semimodular market. Which really is a good thing in the end. It takes me up half an hour to plug in patch on my modular and I sometimes wish for hard wired signal paths.

2600 maybe. Probably never on a 2500. It's too big, even Uli won't be able to make one of those affordable.

..Joe

yea a stereo 2600 for under 1000.00 usd would be cool!!
slip in 1000 user memory and then do a uli macher

a clone of the scrittmacher for under 800.00 usd…
yea would buy a couple of the 2600 units and 4 of the uli-machers!!

they key is stereo output with effects, and the memory!!
then all the same sound that the old 2600 and 2500 series had...

I had a 2600 back in the day... no factory built sequencer …
I made my own!!
back then the clock was not near what modern 1990's midi units were...
let alone by 2019 standards!!

yea I just put a doepfer mac16/3 up on ebay.
see the for sale section for the links to all the gear I am selling over the next year.
love the doe-mac!!
I find my self using the scrittmacher and the radias units more now..
but some one who likes covers for the band who will get it!!
there is a couple of good youtube videos of guy doing just that!!
it even nails the twiddle sound!!

building gear is fun!!
it is just so much less money buying ready made gear!!
unless you own the tool and die companies as well as the electronics companies!!
that way the jina guys do not steel your hard work!!
at least till you get a patent on it.

it is all fun till you try to sell them for money...
then every one trys to get a chunk of the money!!

now a self programming unit, that can take an optical scan of sheet music
and you can select the instruments to play the music...
set it like a fairlite or a touch screen ipad pro so you can tweek on everything in a touch gui menu...

that is my next goal!!
kinda like a player piano that is a player band!! or music pit!!
and use it for backing tracks!!
sure would be handy in the studio!!
i get close now...
but it is a lot of work and programming setup time!!

now if we can get computers that were light faster...
and were not virus ready.. (grin)

and software that did not try to update every 20 seconds...

that is why i love old school hardware items!!

it would work for me if they all had midi and large memory!!
and dump in to removeable flash memory!!

then you could have session files for each bands sound...

flash it and plug it in!!
ready to go!!

we are so close on so much of this gear right now...
every thing is played on digital...
so a real good dsp sound field should be able to recreate sounds for studio...
it is just all just bits!!

the trick is all the harmonics from all the old school hardware units..
the perfection is on the imperfection of the music and sound!!

lol
think on a band playing the same music in a different location..
kinda like studio sound to live...
all that analog acoustics of the new stage changes a perfect studio sound..

so is the future of music direct sound to a persons brain???
that will give you nightmare's!!

I know one of the things i have been working on is brain music..
direct out of a persons memory of a sound to reproduction of the sound a person perceives as music..

so if a person hears a sound in their head..
they can share that music... easy!!
that cuts out the middle man producer!!
LOL!!
but wait!!
they could also do just that!!
thought controlled music remix!!

there is not a day that goes by that i do not get a new riff..
now to export it to paper and hardware before the riff changes!!
that is the trick!!

stay tuned!!

yea a stereo 2600 for under 1000.00 usd would be cool!!
slip in 1000 user memory and then do a uli macher

a clone of the scrittmacher for under 800.00 usd…
yea would buy a couple of the 2600 units and 4 of the uli-machers!!

they key is stereo output with effects, and the memory!!
then all the same sound that the old 2600 and 2500 series had...

I had a 2600 back in the day... no factory built full feature low cost sequencer …
I made my own!!
back then the clock was not near what modern 1990's midi units were...
let alone by 2019 standards!!

yea I just put a doepfer mac16/3 up on ebay.
see the for sale section for the links to all the gear I am selling over the next year.
love the doe-mac!!
I find my self using the scrittmacher and the radias units more now..
but some one who likes covers for the band who will get it!!
there is a couple of good youtube videos of guy doing just that!!
it even nails the twiddle sound!!

building gear is fun!!
it is just so much less money buying ready made gear!!
unless you own the tool and die companies as well as the electronics companies!!
that way the jina guys do not steel your hard work!!
at least till you get a patent on it.

it is all fun till you try to sell them for money...
then every one trys to get a chunk of the money!!

now a self programming unit, that can take an optical scan of sheet music
and you can select the instruments to play the music...
set it like a fairlite or a touch screen ipad pro so you can tweek on everything in a touch gui menu...

that is my next goal!!
kinda like a player piano that is a player band!! or music pit!!
and use it for backing tracks!!
sure would be handy in the studio!!
i get close now...
but it is a lot of work and programming setup time!!

now if we can get computers that were light faster...
and were not virus ready.. (grin)

and software that did not try to update every 20 seconds...

that is why i love old school hardware items!!

it would work for me if they all had midi and large memory!!
and dump in to removeable flash memory!!

then you could have session files for each bands sound...

flash it and plug it in!!
ready to go!!

we are so close on so much of this gear right now...
every thing is played on digital...
so a real good dsp sound field should be able to recreate sounds for studio...
it is just all just bits!!

the trick is all the harmonics from all the old school hardware units..
the perfection is on the imperfection of the music and sound!!

lol
think on a band playing the same music in a different location..
kinda like studio sound to live...
all that analog acoustics of the new stage changes a perfect studio sound..

so is the future of music direct sound to a persons brain???
that will give you nightmare's!!

I know one of the things i have been working on is brain music..
direct out of a persons memory of a sound to reproduction of the sound a person perceives as music..

so if a person hears a sound in their head..
they can share that music... easy!!
that cuts out the middle man producer!!
LOL!!
but wait!!
they could also do just that!!
thought controlled music remix!!

there is not a day that goes by that i do not get a new riff..
now to export it to paper and hardware before the riff changes!!
that is the trick!!

stay tuned!!

Actually, there WAS a sequencer for the 2600. It was a separate box: the model number was the 1601. It was a 16-step sequencer that used CV to control synths and worked perfectly.

I vaguely remember it coming in 2 styles: a tabletop and a box that sat atop the 2600.

I saw one, but never got one to go with my 2600.

..Joe

Joe Gerardi wrote:Actually, there WAS a sequencer for the 2600. It was a separate box: the model number was the 1601. It was a 16-step sequencer that used CV to control synths and worked perfectly.

I vaguely remember it coming in 2 styles: a tabletop and a box that sat atop the 2600.

I saw one, but never got one to go with my 2600.

..Joe

You can still get one in kit form if you're into Synth DIY

The thread is here at Muff Wigglers https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=138862

how much for the 1601 kit?
and can you run these in series??

so you have a 2600 kit too??
how stabile is the osc in the new form??

iowagold wrote:how much for the 1601 kit?
and can you run these in series??

so you have a 2600 kit too??
how stabile is the osc in the new form??

If they can step advance via a trigger, then you can see about some sort of patch from on to another to cycle between the two, but it would probably mean sacrificing a track on each for step advance duties. Not a biggy really, when I've run like this I've always found a secondary function for the duty sequence as there is always it's unused cv which can operate as a custom modulation track.

iowagold wrote:how much for the 1601 kit?
and can you run these in series??

so you have a 2600 kit too??
how stabile is the osc in the new form??

I built my 1601 4 years ago for around £500 ($650). Looks like they're sold out at the moment, but deposits are being taken for the next batch - https://synthcube.com/cart/1601-sequencer-diy. I'm not sure if they can be run in series, I think you'd need some Logic trickery.

The 2600 was my own build (not a kit). Everything, good and bad, is identical to the final 1980 revision apart from added sync and full VCOs.

pretty cool company!
I just took a look at the offerings.
looks like they do a ton of modular stuff!!
lol back in the early 1970's is when I needed them!!