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Appearance matters, no doubt about it. It's a question of subconscious processes in your mind.

The experience of playing an instrument is the result of what we see and what we hear. I tell you, if you were to play the exact same patch on first an Oasys, and then on a Casio Cheapo-Tone, you wouldn't hear the same thing. I mean obviously, the sound is the same, but the perception will vary according to what you see and feel when you play the instrument.

So, I personally feel that an instrument that is well built and pleasing to the eye will sound "better" than an ugly dirty counterpart that produces the same sound. Maybe it's lunatic, but I'm convinced that's how it is.

thanx andy, and no the color does not matter at least not yet

curve: once i told someone (sebby2000 if you read this!!! ) that a piano sound might sound better on a 88 heavy keyboard than on a 76 light keyboard. for sure it works , that's mental

RC-IA wrote:thanx andy, and no the color does not matter at least not yet

curve: once i told someone (sebby2000 if you read this!!! ) that a piano sound might sound better on a 88 heavy keyboard than on a 76 light keyboard. for sure it works , that's mental

For sure it's mental but I also told someone (Teuf if you read this!!! )
The result is not the same and it is the beauty to have different vision.

curvebender wrote:
So, I personally feel that an instrument that is well built and pleasing to the eye will sound "better" than an ugly dirty counterpart that produces the same sound. Maybe it's lunatic, but I'm convinced that's how it is.

I think that is true as well. Additionally when you're creating music and you're in the "zone" you don't want something visually unappealing detracting from that. The look of many instruments is very conducive to the atmosphere created when playing them (or indeed listening to them).

This talk of looks reminds me of one of my music professor's reviews of a concert pianist's (forgot the name) interpretation of a sonato:

.... Unfortunately, (name's) manual acrobatics forgot that a sonato is meant to be heard and not seen....

I really don't care what it looks like. If it sounds great, that's it! Look, or rather listen, to some of those beat up old Hammond B's. Ever get a chance to wail on one in a dirty, smoke-filled, gin-soaked dive? It's pure magic.

I like the OASYS display. To me, it's not hard on the eyes at all. However, RC's original idea of this post is an interesting option.

Cheers,
Eric

Look, or rather listen, to some of those beat up old Hammond B's. Ever get a chance to wail on one in a dirty, smoke-filled, gin-soaked dive? It's pure magic.

Exactly my point! You would associate that gritty Hammond sound with the gin and smoke, wouldn't you?..

Now, put that Hammond in a doctor's office, and I promise it wouldn't sound quite that "magic" anymore..

It would still be magic.... I could have easily said the same thing about playing one at a colleague or friend's house, which I have and it still sound' sweet.

My family's piano was a beat up old Mason and Risch. Not even the latest black laquered Yamaha's come close. So, my point is that it doesn't matter what it looks like or where it's sitting, if it sounds good, that's all I need.

My family's piano was a beat up old Mason and Risch. Not even the latest black laquered Yamaha's come close. So, my point is that it doesn't matter what it looks like or where it's sitting, if it sounds good, that's all I need.

My point is that if you were to play that shiny Yamaha, and it suddenly sounded like your treasured old Mason, you wouldn't experience the same thing.

How do you know what I perceive? There is no point - counterpoint here. To me sound is more important than looks. That's all. To each his own.

EJ2, of course I don't know what you percive, and you're right: to each his own.

I just thought it's an interesting discussion: this is something I've been thinking about for quite some time. There's a big part of me that wants to say "it's only sound", but I'm not convinced that's the case..

Saying that sound is more important than looks seems to imply that you think I put more weight on looks than on sound, and that is not true.

I'm only saying that it's impossible to isolate one sense from the other.

I dont know about this idea - is it like making love to a woman? - what she looks like has an impact on your performance lol. Mmm, one night i like her in red lipstick, black hair, black fingernail polish. the sexy gothic look - the next night i want her with red hair, black lipstick and black boots - will i perform better?? Blooody oath i will !!! hahaha have a laugh.

Thnks gents for the opportunity
Billy the kid.

When I douche out the truck and give it a wash it sure runs a lot better

When I douche out the truck and give it a wash it sure runs a lot better

Goodbye dear thread..

Now, if we're talking women....LOL....that's another matter. But just the same, I can remember a couple of drunken nights in my younger days that .... well .... umm .... you know .... looks didn't mean squat

Nevertheless, I do concede that with all things artistic, the total sensory package is greater than the sum of the parts (to borrow from Gestalt psychology) and indeed enhances the experience.

sebbytriton wrote:

RC-IA wrote:thanx andy, and no the color does not matter at least not yet

curve: once i told someone (sebby2000 if you read this!!! ) that a piano sound might sound better on a 88 heavy keyboard than on a 76 light keyboard. for sure it works , that's mental

For sure it's mental but I also told someone (Teuf if you read this!!! )
The result is not the same and it is the beauty to have different vision.

Perhaps...
It can also depend of the quality of the 61/76 keybed ?

See you soon
Teuf