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ive posted about assigning sw1 + sw2 to octave transpose before in this forum but didnt really get a clear answer from anyone.


i want to assign octave transpose +4/-4 to the TE. Im using it in multitimbral mode with an external sequencer . from what ive read each sound has the sw1+2 sound assigned to a different function. would i need to alter an existing patch and save it so that it octave tranposes in this manner? its driving me crazy. the fact there is no dedicated octave key is just stupid to me esp when the sw1 and sw2 keys fuctionality changes with each patch.

another huge gripe is spdif is 48khz only. this means if i need to go digital into my session, i have to convert all audio to 48k, record,then convert back to 44.1 again. who is using 48k? no one i know



other than these two major oversights by korg (or perhaps me lol)
i can say, this keyboard is truly amazing, there are so many creative patches, mostly from users of this forum who uploaded them onto this site.
i bought this and a roland x6 at the same time and initially didnt like the TE as much as the roland, but now its the other way around.

if i could figure these two issues, it would save me lots of headache

any help would be greatly appreciated!

i want to assign octave transpose +4/-4 to the TE.

You can't do that. You can assign programs with different octave settings to separate timbres and alter their volume to work with one then another etc, or you can control them in midi (int, ext, off).
Another way is to save programs in few different slots with different transpositions. So you can have program with original octave, one with +4, one with -4, for example, and simple changing the program will do what you need.

the fact there is no dedicated octave key is just stupid to me esp when the sw1 and sw2 keys fuctionality changes with each patch.

No such key on Triton and no surprise there, you can do everything on screen. I use transpositions of secondary channels to create multilayering and newer didn't need dedicated keys for transposition.

It's good thing that you can change sw1 and sw2, knob, slider and joystick functionalities the way you want, there is much more options available that way.

About digital recording issues, yes, it can be pain in the... live with it.

thanks for the response, but is there an simpler way to do this all within one program? lets say i wanted to set a piano program to be able to go down -2 and up +2 on sw1 and 2 latch, much like every other keyboard on the market. i see the added value of having the versatility of being able to assign the sw1/sw2 to different parameters, but again this seems like a major oversight on korgs behalf.

this seems somewhat complicated to me what you are suggesting solution wise as it involves using multiple programs, is there any way to do this all in one program? If it is the only option. then so be it. if there are any alternatives from other users, id love to hear them.


thanks for the help

bobbybass wrote:thanks for the response, but is there an simpler way to do this all within one program? lets say i wanted to set a piano program to be able to go down -2 and up +2 on sw1 and 2 latch, much like every other keyboard on the market. i see the added value of having the versatility of being able to assign the sw1/sw2 to different parameters, but again this seems like a major oversight on korgs behalf.

this seems somewhat complicated to me what you are suggesting solution wise as it involves using multiple programs, is there any way to do this all in one program? If it is the only option. then so be it. if there are any alternatives from other users, id love to hear them.


thanks for the help

Set Timbre 1 as the piano in the lower octave and run it through a stereo compressor with no effects, but that mutes any sound when SW 1 is pressed.

Set Timbre 2 as the piano two octaves higher, run through a different stereo compressor with switch 2 now set.

Pressing SW 1 and 2 together will alternate between the two timbres, and consequently, octaves. Be sure to add some reverb so the transition is smooth the piano sounds good, and keep each effect line seperate. For instance

Timbre 1 - > Reverb Hall (IFX 1) - > Stereo Compressor (IFX 2) - > MFX
Timbre 2 - > Reverb Hall (IFX 3) - > Stereo Compressor (IFX 4) - > MFX

I use this to switch from strings to piano live and it's pretty seamless.

Yeah, that setup with compressor effects does the trick, I used to make that kind of setups myself, BUT.

I noticed stereo compressor gives your sounds, especially sounds that you play to sound longer (as organs, strings etc), one annoying vibrato flavour, especially if played in third pitch (double layer).

Maybe it isn't noticeable on stage, depending on gear you use, but on good studio headphones it is.

Just my experience with that kind of setup.

shrike wrote:Yeah, that setup with compressor effects does the trick, I used to make that kind of setups myself, BUT.

I noticed stereo compressor gives your sounds, especially sounds that you play to sound longer (as organs, strings etc), one annoying vibrato flavour, especially if played in third pitch (double layer).

Maybe it isn't noticeable on stage, depending on gear you use, but on good studio headphones it is.

Just my experience with that kind of setup.

you're probably right. I have noticed a little tinge of different sounds with that effect, but yeah, on stage, with guitars, bass, drums, and vocals blaring and not-so-hot venue PAs, it is definitely not noticeable.

Woodwinds, accordions and similar instruments tend to vibrato with compressor effects, synthpads, leads and such do not, according to my experience.

I found out that limiter effects can do the same thing as compressor, with adjusting minus gain values, but there is no vibrato with limiter. Naturally, limiter can't do what compressor can, but for slight gaining or silencing is much better than compressor.

I'm trying to make the best use of those SW1 and SW2 too. It seems the most of their use is done within program, and very few applications of SW1 and SW2 in combination mode

what I wanna do? in a combination, switch rapidly from one sound to another, say from piano to organ or from piano to strings, like in the previous post

any way you can use SW1 and SW2 to change volume parameters for the programs in the combination?

I went through parameter guide and operation guide searchinf for AMS, SW1, SW2, alternate modulation.... it's not 100% clear to me... dunno exactly what a CC80 and CC81 control.

Feels like I'm using the Korg at 20% of its capacity at all time.

thanks in advance for any tips on SW1 and SW2, these strangers..

dunno exactly what a CC80 and CC81 control.

CC#80 is SW1 and CC#81 is SW2 - go to page 277 in Extreme's parameter guide and you'll see designated markings for each controller option available in Extreme.

AMS is for "Alternate modulation source" and means exactly how it writes.
If you assign LFO to pitch and decide not to use it all the time, you can assign to some of AMS to start waving when you engage that AMS, for example joystick, and then LFO will start waving only when you move joystick in programmed direction.

Joystick, slider, knobs, switches and aftertouch are primarily modulation sources, there are other but if you manage those, you already has the thing going and probably will be using some more power from your keyboard.

Read Parameter Guide (carefully and slowly), try making one sound from scratch and alter each parameter to see what does it do to the sound so things will be clearer then they are now.

And forum is always here for issues.

Regards, shrike

yup, starting from scratch is the best troubleshooting way to isolate issues and understand how stuff works; you got that right, dude: time is my issue, the lack of it!

Thanks!

anyone else have any solutions for this issue? im suprised no one else is has the same issue as me, all the other solutions posed are either too confusing or too convoluted-frustrating!! i think with all the music production people do these days, they would have some viable solution- not everyone is using the keyboard in bands- lots of need it for studio work.

argg lol